Are school shootings the price we have to pay for the second amendment?

[Atlanticmike]

right, adults attacking children.

Sauer kid would have been lucky to kill one person before getting beat down.

I think the Sandy Hook shooter could have achieved similar outcomes even with a knife. Obviously with no guns the amount of deaths from mass violence would decrease. I guess what I am trying to say is that it wouldn't disappear, so the better solution is the one that helps for a long term remedy (addressing mental health, toxic gun culture, etc.) rather than a short term reactionary one (ban all or most of the guns owned in the USA currently).

If used correctly, a vehicle is just as deadly as a firearm if not more. Our problem here in America is mental health.

[doubtingthomas]

the kid was quite troubled and most likely would have benefitted from psychotherapy.

"Most infants, children, and adolescents facing mental health challenges - including autism, psychosis, mania, depression, anxiety, and substance use - do not receive evidence-based treatments."
Hupp, Stephen, ed. Pseudoscience in child and adolescent psychotherapy: a skeptical field guide. Cambridge University Press, 2019.

"Surveys consistently reveal that many clinicians do not embrace empirically supported psychotherapies"
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2018-06922-001

I think the kid needed a social circle, some friends.

[doubtingthomas]

I think the Sandy Hook shooter could have achieved similar outcomes even with a knife.

Do you think Paddock could have achieved a similar outcome without his AR-15?

[Kukulkan]

the kid was quite troubled and most likely would have benefitted from psychotherapy.

"Most infants, children, and adolescents facing mental health challenges - including autism, psychosis, mania, depression, anxiety, and substance use - do not receive evidence-based treatments."
Hupp, Stephen, ed. Pseudoscience in child and adolescent psychotherapy: a skeptical field guide. Cambridge University Press, 2019.

"Surveys consistently reveal that many clinicians do not embrace empirically supported psychotherapies"
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2018-06922-001

I think the kid needed a social circle, some friends.

Unless the reporting on the story is false, a kid drawing graphic depictions of death and gore most likely would benefit from psychotherapy. I don't think 'having friends' addresses those kinds of issues.

According to authorities, on a piece of paper in front of Crumbley, the teacher saw the words: "the thoughts won't stop, help me" and a drawing of a bullet and the phrase: "blood everywhere."

There was a sketch of a person shot twice and bleeding, a laughing emoji and the final lines: “my life is useless” and “the world is dead.”

[Jersey Girl]

I think as others have touched on, the USA is dealing with an unaddressed mental health crisis.

Tell me what you think is at the root of that issue?

[Kukulkan]

I think the Sandy Hook shooter could have achieved similar outcomes even with a knife.

Do you think Paddock could have achieved a similar outcome without his AR-15?

Considering the perpetrator in the Nice, France 2016 attack managed to kill 86 with just a truck, yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack

[doubtingthomas]

Unless the reporting on the story is false, a kid drawing graphic depictions of death and gore most likely would benefit from psychotherapy.

from Scientifically Oriented Psychotherapy.

[Kukulkan]

I think as others have touched on, the USA is dealing with an unaddressed mental health crisis.

Tell me what you think is at the root of that issue?

In a more recent context, the pandemic has obviously exacerbated a lot of underlying issues.

On a bigger scale though, I think poverty, lack of social mobility, increased political tension, substance abuse are a few that come to the top of my head.

[Kukulkan]

Unless the reporting on the story is false, a kid drawing graphic depictions of death and gore most likely would benefit from psychotherapy.

from Scientifically Oriented Psychotherapy.

I am not catching on to the point you are trying to prove.

[doubtingthomas]

from Scientifically Oriented Psychotherapy.

I am not catching on to the point you are trying to prove.

I am just pointing out that most children "do not receive evidence-based treatments."