The distance between Christianity and the 4 Gospels

[IHAQ]

Utter nonsense, you won’t be able to provide one example from a official church magazine, manual or conference talk that allows for the flood being anything other than a global event that happened. It’s taught that way in every age group in Sunday school, it’s talked about that way by every General Authority when talking over the pulpit. Consistently. That’s doctrine. Of course, you can rebut me by providing that one example…

I’m not interested in going the rounds with you IHAQ. I realize that as a fundamentalist you have a very narrow and restricted view of things. As such, this has led you out of the church. I would refer you to:

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/ans ... ocal_Flood

This will hopefully, but not necessarily, broaden your horizons.

Regards,
MG

Still waiting…

[IHAQ]

At the point Laban was murdered he was innocent - he had not been convicted of any crime. Why didn’t Nephi pursue Laban through the proper judicial channels of the day, rather than taking things into his own hands? Are you suggesting that it’s okay for us to take matters into our own hands if we feel moved upon spiritually to do so?

Time? The family of Lehi was in somewhat of a hurry to skedaddle out of Jerusalem. There may have been other reasons, but this one comes to the forefront of my mind. Also, Laban had multiple opportunities to deliver up the plates. It wasn’t going to happen.

Regards,
MG

So it’s okay to ignore the law and take matters into your own hands if you’re in a bit of a rush?

[IHAQ]

I think mg has a point. The last time a Mormon leader implies a worldwide flood was in 2007 and the last time Noah's flood is mentioned in general conference was in 2010. It is possible some Mormon leaders are slowly trying to abandon Noah's worldwide flood. But I don't really care.

I don’t think he does. Mormon doctrine is contained with the canon and within the manuals. Things that are taught consistently. I asked MG to provide one example from an official church magazine, manual, or conference talk that allows for the flood being something other than a global event that really happened. He hasn’t provided such an example. But let’s give him a second chance…

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Imagine pointing out lying, and the liar responds with accusations of fault finding.

-_-

He wasn't lying after all.

They’re literally still teaching it:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/man ... 8?lang=eng

It’s literal doctrine and LDS kids are being indoctrinated. What’s wrong with you?

- Doc

[CVAggie]

Brand new to this board. Still an active member, but unbelieving. Stay in for family sake. In have a question for MG or anyone that can answer of it has been discussed before. What is your point of coming on this board? I view it as going to Cougar board as an Aggie fan and posting about how great utah state is. I’m doing nothing other than trying to stir the pot. I’m not truly trying to convince cougarboard how great USU is and how much I believe this. I wonder if MG is really who he/she says they are, or just someone catfishing the entire board. Again, what is your purpose? This new member really would like to know.

[huckelberry]

Brand new to this board. Still an active member, but unbelieving. Stay in for family sake. In have a question for MG or anyone that can answer of it has been discussed before. What is your point of coming on this board? I view it as going to Cougar board as an Aggie fan and posting about how great utah state is. I’m doing nothing other than trying to stir the pot. I’m not truly trying to convince cougarboard how great USU is and how much I believe this. I wonder if MG is really who he/she says they are, or just someone catfishing the entire board. Again, what is your purpose? This new member really would like to know.

In my knowledge Cougar , unless you meet one in the woods, refers to Washington State University and Aggie refers to Texas A and M and USU is I do not know what. I mention this to point out that there are a variety of people and experiences here. We have had a variety of good discussions, ok discussions , lame discussions, tired fights. MG is who he is and has been for years. In the past there have been more defenders of LDS faith.

I find a common LDS background suggests conversational paths on a number of subjects.Some of those subject might be is the church true. How religious culture works and how it affects people is a more frequent subject

Oh and welcome CVAggie

[Marcus]

Brand new to this board. Still an active member, but unbelieving. Stay in for family sake. In have a question for MG or anyone that can answer of it has been discussed before. What is your point of coming on this board? I view it as going to Cougar board as an Aggie fan and posting about how great utah state is. I’m doing nothing other than trying to stir the pot. I’m not truly trying to convince cougarboard how great USU is and how much I believe this. I wonder if MG is really who he/she says they are, or just someone catfishing the entire board. Again, what is your purpose? This new member really would like to know.

In my knowledge Cougar , unless you meet one in the woods, refers to Washington State University and Aggie refers to Texas A and M and USU is I do not know what. I mention this to point out that there are a variety of people and experiences here. We have had a variety of good discussions, ok discussions , lame discussions, tired fights. MG is who he is and has been for years. In the past there have been more defenders of LDS faith.

I find a common LDS background suggests conversational paths on a number of subjects.Some of those subject might be is the church true. How religious culture works and how it affects people is a more frequent subject

Oh and welcome CVAggie

not a native utahn but I have enough family college attendees in the state to know BYU cougars and Utah State Aggies are fierce rivals. Maybe not quite on the level of BYU football vs. The Utes (especially after the Nacua brothers transferred in (one from u of Utah, the other from Washington, I think), which rivalry some refer to as The Holy War. I personally remain neutral, like Switzerland, not wishing to lose any dignity, skin or appendages in various family get-togethers and impromptu football games. Hint: my family believes flag football is for young children, only.

But yes, welcome, CVAggie!

[Rivendale]

Brand new to this board. Still an active member, but unbelieving. Stay in for family sake. In have a question for MG or anyone that can answer of it has been discussed before. What is your point of coming on this board? I view it as going to Cougar board as an Aggie fan and posting about how great utah state is. I’m doing nothing other than trying to stir the pot. I’m not truly trying to convince cougarboard how great USU is and how much I believe this. I wonder if MG is really who he/she says they are, or just someone catfishing the entire board. Again, what is your purpose? This new member really would like to know.

I am relatively new also. I like to see what people believe and why. Plus there is a lot of Mormon topics that are interesting including historical, apologetic and even scientific threads. Many of the people who participate on the threads have spent their entire lives in Mormonism or some other religion and have a perspective you wouldn't get elsewhere.

[MG 2.0]

No one is interesting, in discussing what MG believes. Nor FAIR's weasel words. Not even Lindsey's. We're discussing what the Church actually teaches.

I’ll have to agree with your first sentence. Placed a comma there for you. I find much of what I read uninteresting from some folks here, but not everyone. Give yourself some credit. That you would admit to this is what I find interesting.

Haha.

Ummm…I’m interested in FAIR. I’m interested in what Jeff Lindsay has to say. And I’m also interested in the words of church leaders, past and present. That’s where we differ.

Only certain voices are listened to and allowed, huh? Cancel culture at its best/worst.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

I’ve read the other posts over the last day or so sent my way. Honestly, I don’t see any reason/point responding to them. In one way or another I’ve expressed my thoughts in regards to the repetitive and frankly uninteresting questions asked. You’ve got to do better than that.

My time is a bit more limited. Especially during Christmas season. I’ve also started working as a substitute teacher out in the local schools. I’ve been spending too much time here going around i circles. I can see why more LDS folks don’t join in the fray.

Round and round we go.

Anyway, I can only take time to engage in what interests me. In this way so can walk away with a feeling that my time was well spent rather than being a complete waste of time. Some of the posts, honestly, are not worth the paper they’re written on, figuratively speaking.

So IHAQ, I’ve been pretty good about responding to your questions over time…but I’m unwilling to respond to some of the silly rejoinders you come back with as I attempt to have a conversation with you. Same with Doc and some others. Lately I’ve been called a moron and been encouraged, more than once by the same person, to go play with my grandkids. As though I was wasting his time.

Yeah.

Scaling back. That way this echo chamber can be the place that the majority seems to want it to be. I understand. If this was an all LDS board and one of you came in to give your point of view, there would be some conflict. I get it.

To the recent poster who asked why I have been active at times on this board? To provide a counterbalance/ counterpoint to the prevailing dogma that is represented by the majority. And OF COURSE that’s not going to go over very well. Arguing for God among staunch atheists/agnostics/secularists?

C’mon.

And of COURSE ideas presented by believers and those that have written extensively as apologists…the links provided…are unwanted. Morley as much as said so.

So there you are. This will probably be the longest post I’ll post here from here on out. If something is engaging and worth the time, then maybe.

Have a good weekend. Merry Christmas.

Regards,
MG