Juicy Smollet Trial

[K Graham]

When FOX news deceptively edits the clip and a Nazi injects the words "white people," that's how you make it seem negative. This is the anatomy of their repeated manufactured outrage.

[ajax18]

For any curious, here is Obama's complete (actual) statement. It was taken from a panel put on by the Marshall Project (emphasis mine). Naturally, the full conversation probably doesn't have the same snarl to it.

There is a specific concern as to whether African Americans are sometimes not treated in
particular jurisdictions fairly or subject to excessive force more frequently. I think it’s important for those
who are concerned about that to back it up with data, not anecdote; to not paint with a broad brush; to
understand the overwhelming majority of law enforcement is doing the right thing and wants to do the right
thing; to recognize that police officers have a really tough job and we’re sending them into really tough
neighborhoods that sometimes are really dangerous, and they’ve got to make split-second decisions. And
so we shouldn’t be too sanctimonious about situations that sometimes can be ambiguous.

But having said all that, we as a society, particularly given our history, have to take this
seriously. And one of the ways of avoiding the politics of this and losing the moment is everybody just
stepping back for a second and understanding that the African American community is not just making this
up, and it’s not just something being politicized; it’s real and there’s a history behind it. And we have to
take it seriously. And it’s incumbent then on the activist to also take seriously the tough job that police
have. And that’s one of the things that the post-Ferguson task force did. We had activists who were
marching in Ferguson with police chiefs and law enforcement, sitting down and figuring this stuff out.
And just assuming good faith in other people -- going to the issue of people being cynical -- I
think is important. I’ve rarely gotten much accomplished assuming the worst in other people. Usually it
works better if I assume the best. So I just wanted to make that point.

Transcript link: White House Panel on Criminal Justice Reform

Thanks for finding that Dr. Steuss. I didn't think it possible. I really didn't care nor have the time to prove Mr. Beligerant wrong but I knew what I heard and Obama did say that. I remember watching it.

[ajax18]

Funny. I can't seem to find that quote on Google. I don't say that you are making this up, but you appear to be the only person who remembers the words in that form.

I’m pretty sure that if Obama had actually uttered that sentence, there’d be a Google trail a mile long of conservative websites that would emblazon it in the boldest font, while having a meltdown about how racist a comment it was.

But, oddly, this supposed quote cannot be found anywhere.

Steuss just found it. Obama did utter that sentence.

[canpakes]

I’m pretty sure that if Obama had actually uttered that sentence, there’d be a Google trail a mile long of conservative websites that would emblazon it in the boldest font, while having a meltdown about how racist a comment it was.

But, oddly, this supposed quote cannot be found anywhere.

Steuss just found it. Obama did utter that sentence.

No. The two sentences are quite different.

I’m surprised, given your profession, that you didn’t catch that.

[Chap]

"White people need to realize that black people aren't just making this stuff up."

Barack Obama

Steuss just found it. Obama did utter that sentence.

Funny. In Steuss's post the sentence quoted by Ajax does not appear:

For any curious, here is Obama's complete (actual) statement. It was taken from a panel put on by the Marshall Project (emphasis mine). Naturally, the full conversation probably doesn't have the same snarl to it.

There is a specific concern as to whether African Americans are sometimes not treated in
particular jurisdictions fairly or subject to excessive force more frequently. I think it’s important for those
who are concerned about that to back it up with data, not anecdote; to not paint with a broad brush; to
understand the overwhelming majority of law enforcement is doing the right thing and wants to do the right
thing; to recognize that police officers have a really tough job and we’re sending them into really tough
neighborhoods that sometimes are really dangerous, and they’ve got to make split-second decisions. And
so we shouldn’t be too sanctimonious about situations that sometimes can be ambiguous.

But having said all that, we as a society, particularly given our history, have to take this
seriously. And one of the ways of avoiding the politics of this and losing the moment is everybody just
stepping back for a second and understanding that the African American community is not just making this
up, and it’s not just something being politicized; it’s real and there’s a history behind it. And we have to
take it seriously. And it’s incumbent then on the activist to also take seriously the tough job that police
have. And that’s one of the things that the post-Ferguson task force did. We had activists who were
marching in Ferguson with police chiefs and law enforcement, sitting down and figuring this stuff out.
And just assuming good faith in other people -- going to the issue of people being cynical -- I
think is important. I’ve rarely gotten much accomplished assuming the worst in other people. Usually it
works better if I assume the best. So I just wanted to make that point.

Transcript link: White House Panel on Criminal Justice Reform

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Ajax "reading":



- Doc

[ajax18]

No. The two sentences are quite different.

I’m surprised, given your profession, that you didn’t catch that.

Because the quote said the African American community and not black people? Same thing in my view.

[canpakes]

No. The two sentences are quite different.

I’m surprised, given your profession, that you didn’t catch that.

Because the quote said the African American community and not black people? Same thing in my view.

Find me the part where Obama mentions ‘white’ as an exclusive group of people. Or where Obama says that white people ‘need’ to do a particular thing. Or why you substituted ‘community, with ‘people’. And then, explain the focus of Obama’s actual quote, versus your manufactured quote.

You did catch where you added words that weren’t there, and removed a bunch of words that were, right?

[Chap]

You did catch where you added words that weren’t there, and removed a bunch of words that were, right?

No, he didn't catch either of those points ...

[canpakes]

Actual ajax quote, from another thread:

I personally am tired of parents asking me to let their kid keep his cloth mask on for protection even though it fogs the lenses up completely as soon as he says 1 or 2.

… is the same as:

Black people just need to realize that white eye docs aren’t just making this mask thing up.