Remembering Building 7

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Re: Remembering Building 7

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doubtingthomas wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:27 pm
BeNotDeceived wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:02 pm
Building 7? You obviously haven't read my initial post and so I'll let that answer for you.
No, I am talking about the east mechanical penthouse on the roof of wtc 7. How did the penthouse crumble?
No idea, I wasn't involved in the planning and execution of its controlled demo. Also, have none of the naysayers about controlled demolition seen this video of Larry Silverstein (WTC leaseholder) admitting building 7 was 'pulled'? There's a huge problem with that admission (start at the 36 second mark)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZlmHvd_RZU
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How do you get from "pulled" to "controlled demolition?" Or should we just add this to the list of questions you'll never answer?
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How do you get from "pulled" to "controlled demolition?" Or should we just add this to the list of questions you'll never answer?
LOL, the term 'pull' is slang in the demo industry for bringing down a building with explosives.
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BeNotDeceived wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:48 am
Res Ipsa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:47 am
How do you get from "pulled" to "controlled demolition?" Or should we just add this to the list of questions you'll never answer?
LOL, the term 'pull' is slang in the demo industry for bringing down a building with explosives.
Oh, really. Then you should be able to readily link to examples of its use by people who are actually in the industry.
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BeNotDeceived wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:48 am
How do you get from "pulled" to "controlled demolition?" Or should we just add this to the list of questions you'll never answer?
LOL, the term 'pull' is slang in the demo industry for bringing down a building with explosives.
Not in this case. The interview was referring to NYC firefighters pulling back.
That’s where the misrepresentation of Larry Silverstein’s comments come in.

Silverstein was interviewed for the PBS documentary “America Rebuilds.” But he never said, let alone “admitted,” that he had ordered building 7 demolished. He said:

v"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, “We’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.” And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse"

As the BBC reported, citing misinterpretation of his words, a spokesperson for Silverstein issued a follow-up statement clarifying that by using the phrase “pull it,” he was not referencing the building itself but the crew of firefighters inside the building:

In the afternoon of September 11, Mr Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Centre.

The Commander told Mr Silverstein that there were several fire fighters in the building working to contain the fires.

Mr Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those fire fighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building.

Later in the day, the Fire Commander ordered his fire fighters out of the building and at 5:20pm the building collapsed. No lives were lost at 7 World Trade Centre on September 11, 2001.

In sum, Silverstein never said he had ordered the building demolished. Instead, conspiracy theorists twisted his vague wording in the documentary interview to suit their own agenda. Silverstein later stated that his comments had been mischaracterized and clarified that what he meant by “pull it” was the crew of firefighters inside the building, not the building itself.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/building-7-collapse/
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:52 am
BeNotDeceived wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:48 am

LOL, the term 'pull' is slang in the demo industry for bringing down a building with explosives.
Oh, really. Then you should be able to readily link to examples of its use by people who are actually in the industry.
He's clearly neck deep in 911 truther literature as this is apparently the only reading you'll find that makes this assertion.

https://demolitionforum.com/open-bids/m ... emolition/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ADe ... %22pull%22_?
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BeNotDeceived wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:43 am
No, I am talking about the east mechanical penthouse on the roof of wtc 7. How did the penthouse crumble?
Of course you can't explain the crumbling of the penthouse seconds before the exterior of wtc 7 collapsed. The evidence is not consistent with a controlled demolition.
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Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:43 am
Also, have none of the naysayers about controlled demolition seen this video of Larry Silverstein (WTC leaseholder) admitting building 7 was 'pulled'?
Jesus Christ!
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K Graham wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:44 am
Res Ipsa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:52 am


Oh, really. Then you should be able to readily link to examples of its use by people who are actually in the industry.
He's clearly neck deep in 911 truther literature as this is apparently the only reading you'll find that makes this assertion.

https://demolitionforum.com/open-bids/m ... emolition/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ADe ... %22pull%22_?
From your demolition forum link, a comment about the term "to pull":
Nope never heard it used before except when we "pull" tinfoil off the roll to use it to make hats to keep the government from stealing our thoughts. :rolleyes:
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Marcus wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:58 am
BeNotDeceived wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:48 am

LOL, the term 'pull' is slang in the demo industry for bringing down a building with explosives.
Not in this case. The interview was referring to NYC firefighters pulling back.
That’s where the misrepresentation of Larry Silverstein’s comments come in.

Silverstein was interviewed for the PBS documentary “America Rebuilds.” But he never said, let alone “admitted,” that he had ordered building 7 demolished. He said:

v"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, “We’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.” And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse"



In sum, Silverstein never said he had ordered the building demolished. Instead, conspiracy theorists twisted his vague wording in the documentary interview to suit their own agenda. Silverstein later stated that his comments had been mischaracterized and clarified that what he meant by “pull it” was the crew of firefighters inside the building, not the building itself.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/building-7-collapse/
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"Maybe the smartest thing to do is 'pull' it, so we made the decision to 'pull' and watched the building collapse". Yep, he meant 'pull' the firefighters out since firefighters are all 'its', not 'them' and because they expected the building to collapse even though no steel-framed high rise had ever collapsed due to fire. You guys are great, keep the lunacy coming. :roll:
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