Non-scientific aside personal musings from someone who hasn’t been inside a chem lab in two decades
I'm just going to give my own horn a little tootie-toot-toot.
The full MVA report can only be requested through a reprint request (at least as far as I've been able to find), and all drop-box links I've found so far are dead. From the summaries, and second-hand reporting of it, this "progress report" seems to line up.
Their analysis found the chips to be consistent with epoxy resin and kaolin clay.
My pull towards the red oxide primer was the sometimes inclusion of talc. Kind of a few degrees to Kevin Bacon, but ending up in the same general ballpark as people much smarter than me gave me the warm fuzzies.
Me: Red Oxide Primer (Including Talc)
Smarter People: Epoxy Resin and Kaolin Clay.
Smartest People Who See Through It All: Unnecessary and weird mixture of several types of thermite that somehow simultaneously failed to produce their unmistakable secondary reaction compounds.
Non-scientific aside personal musings from someone who hasn’t been inside a chem lab in two decades (I suffered through digging through this stuff and reliving chem memories, so I am naturally going to make others suffer through me posting about it... because I demand justice):
I was scanning over the Jones’ et.al. paper, and looking at the XEDS Spectra figures for the “red layers” taken from the dust samples. Seems to match up to some red oxide primers (or at least the ingredients of Krylon’s, and Taubman’s based on their material safety data sheets).
What led me down the rabbit hole was the presence of Silicon. For that to line up with a possible type of thermite, there’d need to be Sulphur (for it to ignite readily), which was only found in a small amount of one of the samples. That’d also negate the use of the type of thermite which would account for the Iron in the "chips."
To account for all compounds and the color of the "chips," you’d either need to go with a bizarre and unnecessary mixture several types of thermite (one of which would have produced a pretty potent fart smell). Or red oxide primer.
The whole history of that paper is weird. The dust samples were requested by Jones at some kind of truther conference. They were provided by four randos, two of whom were declared truthers. Jones first said he was going to send them to an independent lab for testing. If he did, he didn't release the results. So the did the analysis was done in group. The analysis doesn't appear to generate consistent results across the four samples. The chips are red on one side and grey on the other. The paper has no explanation for the gray material. Most troubling -- there is no consideration of any other explanation. There's no examination of "what is this most likely to be?" just "could this possibly be nano thermite?" "There's a chance! Stay tuned." But there is never a second episode.
he/him we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.
Non-scientific aside personal musings from someone who hasn’t been inside a chem lab in two decades
I'm just going to give my own horn a little tootie-toot-toot.
The full MVA report can only be requested through a reprint request (at least as far as I've been able to find), and all drop-box links I've found so far are dead. From the summaries, and second-hand reporting of it, this "progress report" seems to line up.
Their analysis found the chips to be consistent with epoxy resin and kaolin clay.
My pull towards the red oxide primer was the sometimes inclusion of talc. Kind of a few degrees to Kevin Bacon, but ending up in the same general ballpark as people much smarter than me gave me the warm fuzzies.
Me: Red Oxide Primer (Including Talc)
Smarter People: Epoxy Resin and Kaolin Clay.
Smartest People Who See Through It All: Unnecessary and weird mixture of several types of thermite that somehow simultaneously failed to produce their unmistakable secondary reaction compounds.
Thanks for doing what AM is unwilling to do. Once again, Conservatives-who-post-here don’t read.
The WTC complex is only worth $2.3 billion today, back in 2001, it was worth about $990 million. Where on earth are you getting the $11.5 billion for a $7 billion loss??. Yep, never read Dr. Jones' paper where nano-thermate is identified as the incendiary for the destruction of the towers. Please stop commenting in this thread, you are clearly clueless.
Someone's youtube isn't proof. You claimed molten steel in the basement. How did youtube person determine that the material was steel? How did they determine the source of whatever it was?
It's a clip from a documentary with the first responders and firefighters talking about the molten steel they observed in the basements flowing like lava and hardly someone's crap from their You-Tube channel.
Someone's youtube isn't proof. You claimed molten steel in the basement. How did youtube person determine that the material was steel? How did they determine the source of whatever it was?
It's a clip from a documentary with the first responders and firefighters talking about the molten steel they observed in the basements flowing like lava and hardly someone's crap from their You-Tube channel.
Not oops at all. How did the first responders know it was steel as opposed to, say, aluminum? Did they trace the lava flows back to their source? Were there sources of metal other than, say, structural steel, that were the source of whatever it was that was flowing?
he/him we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.
Where was this thermite supposed to have been placed?
Earlier in this thread, I posted a link to an interview given by Richard Gage of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth on a local TV news station where he mentions an elevator modernization program that was going on weeks before 9/11 and then a CIA whistleblower named Susan Lindauer broke silence and told how a fleet of vans would show up to the WTC towers for two weeks during graveyard hours undertaking some kind of project where fine dust was being spread throughout the buildings and getting over everything from the work they were doing. Nano-thermite can be applied to a surface like paint, requiring no wiring or traditional explosives and can be ignited remotely by activating a wire by heating it with an electrical pulse. Look at this picture... does this look like a gravitational collapse of a 110 story skyscraper? Does gravity have the energy to reduce a 110 story building to dust in 12 seconds? If you think so, I've got beachfront property in Kansas I'd like to sell you...
Where was this thermite supposed to have been placed?
Nano-thermite can be applied to a surface like paint, requiring no wiring or traditional explosives and can be ignited remotely by activating a wire by heating it with an electrical pulse. Look at this picture... does this look like a gravitational collapse of a 110 story skyscraper? Does gravity have the energy to reduce a 110 story building to dust in 12 seconds? If you think so, I've got beachfront property in Kansas I'd like to sell you...
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Here's a gravitational collapse...
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Controlled demolition...
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Any questions?
Yes, I have questions.
Where was the thermite supposedly applied? Locations, please.
What are the critical differences that you perceive between a ‘gravitational collapse’ and a ‘controlled demolition’? Per your pics, or others, describe with words what folks should be looking for.
In a controlled demolition, where are charges typically located?
In a controlled demolition, what brings down the building after the charges have ignited?
Finally, why did you include an image of what appears to be pyroclastic flow around a cone volcano?
Yep, never read Dr. Jones' paper where nano-thermate is identified as the incendiary for the destruction of the towers. 
