I HEREBY STEP DOWN FOR NOW

[Marcus]

…I have been back here for just the few weeks, and I don’t think you have said anything of substance?

Says the guy who “goofed” and said something not true at all, but wants people to overlook that. Try reading more threads than just the ones where you spout Binger-like nonsense if you’re missing the intellectual input of other posters. Substance is not your forté.

..You've brought up a half dozen topics or more in just a few posts, and it doesn't appear you have any idea what you're talking about on any of them. Did you figure out yet that California isn't 48th in the nation in education and a top spender per student?

… I think you should pick one issue you're worried about, and try to understand that issue with more depth instead of rapid-firing issues that you just assume you're right about.

Exactly. The Binger-tactic is ineffective.

[Markk]

Az sum1 educated in the state that iz actually 48th for K-12, I want two demand that u try not to steel our place of onner.

Wat? You got 600 gas two?

The joke was already said…it was funny and I deserved it.

Moksha you never enter into a conversation, you just chime in with dumb responses like you did here without any original thought…Steuss was funny, you just come of as a follower with no timing.

How do you feel about Biden and Harris…is he sharp and doing a good job? Do you think when he speaks he is speaking his thoughts…or just reading a piece of paper he is given by his handler? I am going to try to pin you down and see if you can actually enter into a conversation and articulate what you actually believe…is that fair?

Maybe you can tell why gas is so high and getting higher…or you can wait for Gad to answer and you can just follow what he says in that is what you do best …follow people.

[Markk]

…I have been back here for just the few weeks, and I don’t think you have said anything of substance?

Says the guy who “goofed” and said something not true at all, but wants people to overlook that. Try reading more threads than just the ones where you spout Binger-like nonsense if you’re missing the intellectual input of other posters. Substance is not your forté.

Remember when I said I would show you…this is it. You have nothing to offer but to troll…you are doing here what you whine about Mike. I am offering you a chance to defend Biden, Harris and their policies.

I said I got sloppy, I apologize, I stand corrected…do you want more? Huckleberry said 60% of Americans want Trump dead, are you going to go after him…no. Why, he is in your tribe. But here you have a chance to actually defend and articulate why Biden and Harris are doing such a good job…can you do that.

You are trolling just like AM, I am trying to converse on the current president and VP, and discuss how they are doing…can you do that?

[Moksha]

Maybe you can tell why gas is so high and getting higher…or you can wait for Gad to answer and you can just follow what he says in that is what you do best …follow people.

Hey, I'm a follower and I've always enjoyed Dr. Steuss.

Gas prices? Probably due to sanctions against Russia and a chance for American oil companies to make a bundle on price hikes. I imagine you would like us to capitulate to Russian aggression.

[Marcus]

Says the guy who “goofed” and said something not true at all, but wants people to overlook that. Try reading more threads than just the ones where you spout Binger-like nonsense if you’re missing the intellectual input of other posters. Substance is not your forté.

I said I got sloppy, I apologize, I stand corrected…do you want more?

You didn’t ‘get sloppy’, you were flat out wrong.

Remember when I said I would show you…this is it.

Please. You’ve shown nothing.

I am trying to converse on the current president and VP, and discuss how they are doing…can you do that?

with your sloppy errors about education? No, I agree with Gad on this one.

..You've brought up a half dozen topics or more in just a few posts, and it doesn't appear you have any idea what you're talking about on any of them. Did you figure out yet that California isn't 48th in the nation in education and a top spender per student?

… I think you should pick one issue you're worried about, and try to understand that issue with more depth instead of rapid-firing issues that you just assume you're right about.

Like I said before, your Binger-tactic of spouting stuff off in all directions is ineffective.

[Jersey Girl]

How did this thread end up being about Trump v. Biden?

[MeDotOrg]

Think of Spirit Paradise as a bar where a lot of people go to hook up and have a good time. But there are always a couple of loners at the bar who have given up on hooking up. They're the guys rehearsing their Robert De Niro You talkin' to me? speech while nursing their beer. They're looking for a provocation and then escalation.

Some of these guys get 86'd to Spirit Prison, but a lot of times they hang out on the edge of trouble.

Think of Shades as the bouncer in this establishment. It's a thankless task. The unruly customers complain they're being treated unfairly when he kicks them out, but a lot of the regulars are sick of the unruly customers.

[Kishkumen]

As for the war, I think Biden is doing a decent job. Anybody with intelligence north of a Venus Flytrap is relieved Biden is president during this conflict and not Trump.

You've brought up a half dozen topics or more in just a few posts, and it doesn't appear you have any idea what you're talking about on any of them. Did you figure out yet that California isn't 48th in the nation in education and a top spender per student?

I'm interested in what a problem is and what the solution might be. Politics can factor in eventually. There are many problems out there that unfortunately, I don't see much of a hope of solving, and certainly not by politics. I think you should pick one issue you're worried about, and try to understand that issue with more depth instead of rapid-firing issues that you just assume you're right about.

Amen to all of that, especially the relief that Trump is not president now. Sad how much his criminality, corruption, and fecklessness damaged our country.

[Markk]

Yeah we are in great shape as a country and Biden is sharp as a tack and Harris is on top of the border here, and did a great job in her recent trip...

Much like my right-wing friend who rambles endlessly about "Democrats" and "libertards" and "Slow Joe Biden" and "Polesi!", you frame every life problem in direct political terms where liberals are the cause. When thwarted, you shift to the next problem. In any conversation, my right-wing friend has one agenda, for "his guy" to be right. He contradicts himself endlessly, doesn't have the education to even begin talking about half of the things he has hard and fast opinions on, and even when he admits his information is wrong, through his eyes, you can see the gears turning -- very slowly -- strategically conceding things not material to the case and working on the next thing to bring up that he's sure will "get me".

Why are you asking me about Biden and Harris? You're not looking in the mirror, Mark. I'm not somebody who believes all of life's problems and woes have political roots, and the guy I voted for is the answer to everything. I'm not the inverse of you. As a libertarian, I would vote for the right Republican candidates should they arise. As for the war, I think Biden is doing a decent job. Anybody with intelligence north of a Venus Flytrap is relieved Biden is president during this conflict and not Trump.

You've brought up a half dozen topics or more in just a few posts, and it doesn't appear you have any idea what you're talking about on any of them. Did you figure out yet that California isn't 48th in the nation in education and a top spender per student?

I'm interested in what a problem is and what the solution might be. Politics can factor in eventually. There are many problems out there that unfortunately, I don't see much of a hope of solving, and certainly not by politics. I think you should pick one issue you're worried about, and try to understand that issue with more depth instead of rapid-firing issues that you just assume you're right about.

LOL yeah right. I have stated over and over on this forum that Trump's is a A-hole, and that it is sad that we had such sad candidates (Trump and Hilary). Hell, a game show host beat a former First Lady, SOS, and Senator. Trump is a a-hole…but he was a leader no doubt where Biden is a old man circling the drain, and you can’t admit it or discuss it on a “discussion board.” Trump did some good things, even being a a-hole. We were energy independent…that is good. He was against the war in Afghanistan, while Obama and Biden said that were we should be instead of Iraq. He got us out of the messes in the Middle East and Biden screwed it up, not Trump..that is a good thing. Trump got the vaccines going and that alone is a crazy good thing in my book. He was getting the border under control and even had Mexico helping out a little. He did stupid things like acting like a butt hurt baby and did not take the high road when he should have. But I alas understand that the left lied and n=made up things that fueled it, but for me it was not a excuse, and it cost him another 4 years.

My point is show me in all your posts where you are a pragmatist in this even minded soul? LOL what a joke Gad. If I am wrong I will apologize.

If you think that a current president that is clearly declining, and just doing what he is told is somehow “off limits” then stop with the nonsense. If you think that Harris is qualified and ready for the task…then state so, or admit she is not.

I believe all “life’s problems” are because of our sin nature. I know my heart, and I know what it is capable of. I can see here the same with others even if less than I know my own heart. I am far less political than you think, but I know BS when I see it and I know the left is not leading us in the right direction, not because of politics but what is actually happening and how our cites are fully apart. I also believe all politicians are full of crap and in it for their own..so I can only follow what come out of their policy’s…and whether I like Trump or not he had America going the right direction for the most part, I see Biden as a puppet…and I pray that who ever is in charge makes good decisions and I pray for that.


Again do you believe that Biden is fit to handle such a fragile time? If Harris qualified?

[Res Ipsa]

Much like my right-wing friend who rambles endlessly about "Democrats" and "libertards" and "Slow Joe Biden" and "Polesi!", you frame every life problem in direct political terms where liberals are the cause. When thwarted, you shift to the next problem. In any conversation, my right-wing friend has one agenda, for "his guy" to be right. He contradicts himself endlessly, doesn't have the education to even begin talking about half of the things he has hard and fast opinions on, and even when he admits his information is wrong, through his eyes, you can see the gears turning -- very slowly -- strategically conceding things not material to the case and working on the next thing to bring up that he's sure will "get me".

Why are you asking me about Biden and Harris? You're not looking in the mirror, Mark. I'm not somebody who believes all of life's problems and woes have political roots, and the guy I voted for is the answer to everything. I'm not the inverse of you. As a libertarian, I would vote for the right Republican candidates should they arise. As for the war, I think Biden is doing a decent job. Anybody with intelligence north of a Venus Flytrap is relieved Biden is president during this conflict and not Trump.

You've brought up a half dozen topics or more in just a few posts, and it doesn't appear you have any idea what you're talking about on any of them. Did you figure out yet that California isn't 48th in the nation in education and a top spender per student?

I'm interested in what a problem is and what the solution might be. Politics can factor in eventually. There are many problems out there that unfortunately, I don't see much of a hope of solving, and certainly not by politics. I think you should pick one issue you're worried about, and try to understand that issue with more depth instead of rapid-firing issues that you just assume you're right about.

LOL yeah right. I have stated over and over on this forum that Trump's is a A-hole, and that it is sad that we had such sad candidates (Trump and Hilary). Hell, a game show host beat a former First Lady, SOS, and Senator. Trump is a a-hole…but he was a leader no doubt where Biden is a old man circling the drain, and you can’t admit it or discuss it on a “discussion board.” Trump did some good things, even being a a-hole. We were energy independent…that is good. He was against the war in Afghanistan, while Obama and Biden said that were we should be instead of Iraq. He got us out of the messes in the Middle East and Biden screwed it up, not Trump..that is a good thing. Trump got the vaccines going and that alone is a crazy good thing in my book. He was getting the border under control and even had Mexico helping out a little. He did stupid things like acting like a butt hurt baby and did not take the high road when he should have. But I alas understand that the left lied and n=made up things that fueled it, but for me it was not a excuse, and it cost him another 4 years.

My point is show me in all your posts where you are a pragmatist in this even minded soul? LOL what a joke Gad. If I am wrong I will apologize.

If you think that a current president that is clearly declining, and just doing what he is told is somehow “off limits” then stop with the nonsense. If you think that Harris is qualified and ready for the task…then state so, or admit she is not.

I believe all “life’s problems” are because of our sin nature. I know my heart, and I know what it is capable of. I can see here the same with others even if less than I know my own heart. I am far less political than you think, but I know BS when I see it and I know the left is not leading us in the right direction, not because of politics but what is actually happening and how our cites are fully apart. I also believe all politicians are full of crap and in it for their own..so I can only follow what come out of their policy’s…and whether I like Trump or not he had America going the right direction for the most part, I see Biden as a puppet…and I pray that who ever is in charge makes good decisions and I pray for that.


Again do you believe that Biden is fit to handle such a fragile time? If Harris qualified?

Yes. I think you have showmanship confused with leadership. In terms of decline, I think Biden is in better shape than Trump during his presidency.

We weren’t energy dependent during the Trump presidency. We don’t even have the refineries capable of refining domestic oil. We exported domestic oil and imported foreign oil for domestic use. The price of gasoline during the Trump presidency was just as dependent on how much oil the OPEC nations decided to produce as it is today.

The oil reserves in the US are more expensive to recover and refine than the reserves in Saudi Arabia. If you want the US to produce more oil, the price has to be higher, not lower. As the price falls, production of domestic oil will become unprofitable before production of Saudi oil does.

When the pandemic hit, demand for oil plummeted. Trump leaned on the Saudis to cut production to keep the price high enough to keep domestic production operating. That was the right thing to do.

But it’s not like turning a trap on and off. When the US and parts of Europe decided that the pandemic was “over,” demand for oil rose very quickly, resulting in higher prices. And the Biden administration went back to the Saudis to lobby then to increase production, which, last I heard, they agreed to do.

Changes in US gasoline prices are almost entirely caused by changes in crude oil prices. Gasoline prices have spiked for three reasons:

1. A spike in demand as a pent up demand for petroleum products occurred;

2. The supply had been artificially reduced by OPEC.

3. The Russian invasion of Ukraine, including uncertainty and the extent of the boycott of Russian oil.

But, you also have to keep in mind for the long run: The cheapest and easiest oil gets harvested first. The US is out of cheap and easy oil reserves. So, if you want the US to be “energy independent,” you have to be willing to pay more at the pump — not less. And you have to sucker someone into building refineries in the US capable of refining US oil, when the world is moving away from fossil fuels and toward renewables.

But that’s the good news. If you are sincere in your desire for the US to become energy independent, green energy is your best friend. Because the OPEC doesn’t control the price of Sun and wind.