Church membership numbers not good.

[Shulem]

I look forward to finding out how many losses are incurred in 2022. Massive resignations and inactivity as members find it easier to stay home and forget all that busy work at Church. And, teenage boys and girls need not be asked probing questions about their personal sexual habits. The next time a bishop asks a 12 year old boy about whether he masturbates the police should be called and the parents should press charges against that bishop. Sue the hell out him!

Call 911 when a bishop abuses a boy or girl with creepy probing questions.

Just call 911 and file charges.

The Church has 100 billion. Time to bleed that money and pour it back into the hands of those who gave it. The IRS needs to tax the hell out of it, 30% or more! As far as I'm concerned the Church has embezzled sacred funds that were intended as donations to build the kingdom for the people and alleviate suffering, not stockpile hordes of money.

[Fence Sitter]

MG2.0,

What is the purpose of all the temples when names are being recycled due to lack of new genealogical records?

It seems to be the sole purpose of all these new temples is to convince members that the church isn’t suffering a decline.

Which also explains why there is a rush to announce then but no rush to actually build them.

The purpose of the new temples is $$$$.
Leadership has realized that more temples means more tithe payers.
Even the prospect of a accessible temple in the near future will drive up church revenues.
Smith would be so proud of how the scam he started has evolved into a great money making business.

[Morley]

In my estimation the numbers that are important are the proliferation of temples throughout the earth. The church isn’t going to invest in these buildings unless they can see that the membership numbers in a given area are strong and active enough to support it.

Ha! You're kidding, right?

Temples are a great investment for the church. If there's a temple in a member's area, there's significant social and ecclesiastical pressure to do temple work. To do temple work, one has to be a full tithe payer. Temples are basically a license to print money.

The scriptures seem to support the fact that this process would take place.

The scriptures are opaque enough that one can argue that they support almost any given proposition.



edit: I see Fence Sitter has beat me to it.

[Schreech]

MG2.0,

What is the purpose of all the temples when names are being recycled due to lack of new genealogical records?

It seems to be the sole purpose of all these new temples is to convince members that the church isn’t suffering a decline.

Which also explains why there is a rush to announce then but no rush to actually build them.

Prepare for some meaningless LDS platitude about the importance of temples for the work of elohim progress! Im guessing he is going to parrot some kind of wheat vs tares talking point as well as he obviously considers himself special since he was one of the very few people on the face of the whole earth that just so happened to be born into the one true franchise and still maintains blind trust in the corporate heads of LDS inc.

[Doctor Steuss]

So 100 announcements by Nelson, 2 completed, 39 have had a groundbreaking or have a scheduled future groundbreaking date. That leaves 59 temples announced by Nelson in 4 years, with no plans. I wonder what the logic is in having so many in limbo? Has land been purchased, at least?

Those other 59 were called "planned Mormon temples" by someone somewhere, so they are currently on hold to prevent a victory for Satan.

[Philo Sofee]

Nelson announces a temple in Montpelier, Idaho?!? It has a population of 2,518 (2019), and the work is progressing so fast there it needs a temple???

The farmers must be baptizin their animals too!

[Philo Sofee]

MG2.0,

What is the purpose of all the temples when names are being recycled due to lack of new genealogical records?

It seems to be the sole purpose of all these new temples is to convince members that the church isn’t suffering a decline.

Which also explains why there is a rush to announce then but no rush to actually build them.

No unhallowed hand shall stop this great and mighty work of the Holy Lord Jesus Christ.

[BeNotDeceived]

You mean to tell me that after nearly 30 years of internet access, people are still joining this church?

It's not a church.

[MG 2.0]

I’m fairly skilled at ignoring when I choose to.

Oh, I'm sure you are.

After a good few years observing discussions between Mormon believers and critics on von this and other boards, I think that is a vital tactic for preserving your testimony. It's a delicate thing, after all.

However, ignoring substantive statements of facts that you find inconvenient does rather obviously diminish the value of your arguments, even if it makes you feel (sort of) OK.

Ha. No it’s a vital tactic to preserve my time. Time spent talking about nothing is time wasted. My experience with this poster has shown me that there is such a thing as thoroughly wasting one’s time. Personally I would like to allocate my time to being a bit more productive.

I think this will help me achieve that goal. I actually feel somewhat guilty in knowing I’ve already wasted a fair amount of time communicating with a person who was described very well by Free Ranger. He did a nice job laying out this poster’s cons and tricks.

Testimony? It’s only increased over time while popping in and out and participating on this board. It’s become rather obvious to me that faith and testimony in the restoration are preferable to secular humanist belief. I think that over time I’ve outlined valid reasons and logic for choosing faith.

Obviously you will disagree.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

MG2.0,

What is the purpose of all the temples when names are being recycled due to lack of new genealogical records?

It seems to be the sole purpose of all these new temples is to convince members that the church isn’t suffering a decline.

Which also explains why there is a rush to announce then but no rush to actually build them.

You may not have read what I asked you to read?

The church likes to do things right. Wat does that mean, you say?

Go back and read. Five minutes of your time.

What you may think “seems” to be the reason for temples is your opinion, which you are entitled to.

The Lord has other purposes.

Regards,
MG