NBC news story on Hunter Biden

[canpakes]

It's whiplash inducing to see folks like Markk declare a VP having assigned financial management of their assets to a company that manages financial matters as demanding an investigation because they...paid his repair bills out of a fund he owned? Yet dismiss Trump's declaration that his business dealings would remain actively managed by his children who then all moved into the White House and took jobs of varying degrees with his campaign. Yeah, I know. Markk doesn't like Trump or something, but at least he lead the country somewhere...

Is it okay to have a sitting VP or President, or anyone in government to have a financial investment firm that has deep lobbyist ties…manage their monies? Out of hindsight we know that Burisma was paying Rosemont Monies. And were they actually managing Joe’s accounts…or were they paying his bills with LLC monies? I have not been able to find that out…do you have a cf for that fund he owned, I must have missed that, and what investments fed that fund?

Remember Hunter, and Eric were lobbyists, and Eric might still be one today from what I can find.

Happy Easter, Markk!

Re: your response - To be fair, it’s probably much more efficient to openly install one’s children into White House administrative and staff positions where they can directly steer policy and receive tens of millions in income from their efforts and relationship, as opposed to hoping that it all works out through a lobbying firm. Trump and his family showed us how to do this better than anyone.

That aside, I’m still wondering if you can explain how an unidentified telephone bill (or any of the other minor purchases) being paid by Hunter Biden is a legal issue for JB.

[K Graham]

Trump attorney Alan Dershowitz says there is nothing in any of the emails to implicate the President in anything illegal.

LOL….That’s not quite what he said Kevin, …. But I more or less agree with him, the investigation should go forward, and folks should not get too excited either way and there is a long way to go.

Um, that's exactly what he said. The emails aren't from Joe Biden. Emails potentially talking about Joe Biden don't matter.

"You'd have to prove complicity by quote, 'the big man,'" Dershowitz said. "It's not enough for 'the big man' to be mentioned in an email. There have to be emails from the person who was the target or the subject of the investigation. Remember, hearsay is inadmissible. So I think there's a long, long road to hoe before you get anywhere close to the president of the United States."

Trump's collusion with Russia was considered unindictable because all the collusion was indirect and done by agents of the Trump administration and not Trump himself. Hence, the reason he sent his son to meet with Russians who promised to dig up dirt on Hillary.

[honorentheos]

This encapsulates the state of modern American right-wing Christianity. Happy Easter.

When the memes and jabs at my faith, instead of addressing the context, start coming out…I know my points might be sinking in, even if a little.

It's not a jab, more of a call back. We discussed that the emails that we have, limited and curated as they are, show Joe expressing love, support, and concern for his prodigal son. You, the modern American right-wing Christian, see that and dig a pit and spike it in the hopes of seeing Joe Biden fall in and impelled by it.

You are the fruit of decades of rot in a political culture war masquerading as religion.

[honorentheos]

It's whiplash inducing to see folks like Markk declare a VP having assigned financial management of their assets to a company that manages financial matters as demanding an investigation because they...paid his repair bills out of a fund he owned? Yet dismiss Trump's declaration that his business dealings would remain actively managed by his children who then all moved into the White House and took jobs of varying degrees with his campaign. Yeah, I know. Markk doesn't like Trump or something, but at least he lead the country somewhere...

Is it okay to have a sitting VP or President, or anyone in government to have a financial investment firm that has deep lobbyist ties…manage their monies?

Tell ya what, son. Seems about time you showed you understand the sequence of events here by pointing out exactly what Rosemont Seneca was doing in 2009/10 that justify you concern. You seem quite convinced their dealings in 2014 and beyond matter even though no emails from that period were released by the curators of your outrage inducing leash yank. But you can produce this, I'm sure, given you are not anyone's dog, right?

Let's see what you have independent of the media you claim to not feed on for your views and opinions. I'm curious.

…or were they paying his bills with LLC monies? I have not been able to find that out…do you have a cf for that fund he owned, I must have missed that, and what investments fed that fund?

Jesus, son. You embarrass us both coming this far and now you admit you've been posting without even comprehending replies. Its in the thread. Like you told Res. You can find it.

[honorentheos]

The question is what you can show regarding Joe Biden.

Here's a question styled after your own: Would it matter to your theory if Joe was offering to pay for his grandkids needs when Hunter was down on his luck or do you think that proves guilt? Does it matter if you can read in texts and emails genuine fatherly concern for Hunter even when Hunter is lashing out and immature in his responses? Detaching yourself from your partisan hate, wouldn't Joe Biden be better seen as a Christian father caring for his children regardless of how far they have strayed?

Why do you hate Joe Biden? Just because he's a Democrat?

I don’t hate Joe Biden, I don’t hate too many people. If there is one kind of people I hate, and have a hard time to forgive, are people that hurt Children.

To answer you question/s …I think it would be great if Joe does things for his grand kids,and I am sure he does…and it does not prove any kind of guilt, it proves he cares about his grandkids. I believe he cares about Hunter, at least I hope he does, and I believe it could be genuine…I am not close enough to know for sure, but I certainly hope he cares about Hunter. I believe Hunter feels like the black sheep, but maybe I am wrong.

But one can certainly care about their son, and still be corrupt…I am sure most corrupt folks care deeply about their children.

Show me where I habitually spew partisan hate…that is just false…I don’t agree with most far left liberal ideals, but I don’t spew hate like you claim. I am not a Kevin, or a Schmo, or a Gad, where most every post is full of hate toward the right. I have my moments, as do you…but I would not put people like you, I or Res, or even Pakes in that category.

I believe JB is dirty in my opinion, based on he is always around dirty politics, James, his sister, Hunter, and others. It does not mean I hate him, or does it means he is guilty, it means that I think there is enough for a real investigation.

My question is, that you have refused to answer is simply would it be bad if Hunter paid joes bills faith foreign Government monies. I don’t know if Joe is dirty, maybe he is just ignorant and does not make good decisions in all this, or know how to council his son…but there is enough evidence for a investigation. You claimed I have been saying a lot of the same things…yes, and that is one key talking point…not that I can prove he is guilty, but that there is enough evidence for a real investigation.

I don’t know for sure if Hunter paid for his bill with dirty money, but he might have….and if that alone was the only issue it would be a nothing burger, but like Joseph Smith, it just seems that no matter what the Biden’s get into, using your words, there is “smoke.”

Context.

[Markk]

Is it okay to have a sitting VP or the President, or anyone in government to have a financial investment firm that has deep lobbyist ties…manage their monies? Out of hindsight we know that Burisma was paying Rosemont Monies. And were they actually managing Joe’s accounts…or were they paying his bills with LLC monies? I have not been able to find that out…do you have a cf for that fund he owned, I must have missed that, and what investments fed that fund?

Remember Hunter, and Eric were lobbyists, and Eric might still be one today from what I can find.

Happy Easter, Markk!

Re: your response - To be fair, it’s probably much more efficient to openly install one’s children into White House administrative and staff positions where they can directly steer policy and receive tens of millions in income from their efforts and relationship, as opposed to hoping that it all works out through a lobbying firm. Trump and his family showed us how to do this better than anyone.

That aside, I’m still wondering if you can explain how an unidentified telephone bill (or any of the other minor purchases) being paid by Hunter Biden is a legal issue for JB.

Yes Happy Easter! Thanks, spent the Morning hiding eggs. Hope you have a great Easter.

I answered your question about the phone bill, the point is that Hunter may have been paying Joes bills and the issue is why and where is the money connected too.

I know for a fact, that the state of California employees sign a agreement they will another take any outside moneys. We recently met with two high level state representatives in regards of a new project we just landed. At our meeting on site, we furnished sandwiches and “stuff” from a high end deli, and after the meeting they each gave us $30.00 cash back out of their own pockets and explained they sign a discloser and have to disclose any monies or gifts taken or they could loose their jobs.

I know also for a fact that Orange County Parks have the same agreement…they are allowed to take less than something like 5 dollars of lets say coffee and donuts at a meeting, but nothing more. I am close with many local government architects, engineers and inspectors and it is just a fact.

If one wanted to, I bet it would not be hard to find what the SOP is for federal workers and even the president on taking money and gifts from outside sources.

I just google it and this was my first hit

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/reagans/r ... tial-gifts

The second hit

https://www.crf-usa.org/images/pdf/TheE ... Clause.pdf

Bottom line is like everything I am asserting, this is just another link in a chain of inconsistencies.

[ajax18]

The status quo is to get elected to office, go to Washington, then leave office for a high paid seat on a board. What makes Joe Biden special is that he's found a way to do this without ever leaving office. Just funnel the money through family members. And when you look at Joe Biden's personal wealth, multiple homes, and supposed middle class upbringing, it's not hard to see that he didn't buy that with his congressional salary.

[Markk]

LOL….That’s not quite what he said Kevin, …. But I more or less agree with him, the investigation should go forward, and folks should not get too excited either way and there is a long way to go.

Um, that's exactly what he said. The emails aren't from Joe Biden. Emails potentially talking about Joe Biden don't matter.

"You'd have to prove complicity by quote, 'the big man,'" Dershowitz said. "It's not enough for 'the big man' to be mentioned in an email. There have to be emails from the person who was the target or the subject of the investigation. Remember, hearsay is inadmissible. So I think there's a long, long road to hoe before you get anywhere close to the president of the United States."

Trump's collusion with Russia was considered unindictable because all the collusion was indirect and done by agents of the Trump administration and not Trump himself. Hence, the reason he sent his son to meet with Russians who promised to dig up dirt on Hillary.

Where did he say “there is nothing in the e-mails” Kevin?

This is just like your “there is a solar farm being built that will Power all of Europe.” They you just double down. AD as of yet the “big guy” e-mail is here say….I doubt he has gone through all the e-mails…and in a real investigation we both know that depositions and alike will have to happen.

[Markk]

Is it okay to have a sitting VP or the President, or anyone in government to have a financial investment firm that has deep lobbyist ties…manage their monies?

Tell ya what, son. Seems about time you showed you understand the sequence of events here by pointing out exactly what Rosemont Seneca was doing in 2009/10 that justify you concern. You seem quite convinced their dealings in 2014 and beyond matter even though no emails from that period were released by the curators of your outrage inducing leash yank. But you can produce this, I'm sure, given you are not anyone's dog, right?

Let's see what you have independent of the media you claim to not feed on for your views and opinions. I'm curious.

…or were they paying his bills with LLC monies? I have not been able to find that out…do you have a cf for that fund he owned, I must have missed that, and what investments fed that fund?

Jesus, son. You embarrass us both coming this far and now you admit you've been posting without even comprehending replies. Its in the thread. Like you told Res. You can find it.

Okay, I’ll go look for it, it is probably mixed in with one of your ad hom rants like above, which I obviously ignore…but I will look for it.

Love ya

[K Graham]

Where did he say “there is nothing in the e-mails” Kevin?

That's not what I said he said. Why do you constantly do this? Do you really think everyone else here is too stupid to know when you're lying about something that is easily verified a few posts above?

I said, and I quote, "nothing in any of the emails to implicate the President in anything illegal." You've had nearly two years to sift through the emails, and all you do is produce snippets without context in order to lie and deceive about what they really mean. Dershowitz's remarks undermines all the idiotic hysteria that has been created by people like you and those who manufacture fake scandals just to detract from their own political drama.

This is like your delusional insistence that I "lied" about a solar farm providing all of Europe with electricity right now when in reality you just can't comprehend basic English and you have an affinity for missing the point. The point being is that we have the means to provide all our energy needs with renewables, it is only a question of political will. Democrats have it, but Republicans fight tooth and nail against progress.