NBC news story on Hunter Biden

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Re: NBC news story on Hunter Biden

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K Graham wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:16 pm
Markk wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:59 pm
Yes I have kids…what does that have to do with the context of the texts?
It has to do with how one reads the texts. It is a parent berating his teenage daughter. But you're telling me it is just unfathomable that a parent refer to how he had to do things when he was his kid's age? The old cliché about how your grandparents didn't get to ride a school bus, but rather they had to walk 3 miles to school in the snow uphill both ways! Guess you never heard any hyperbole or comparisons like that huh? I guess you never heard anything like how every generation whines about how good the next generation has it huh?

Sure you haven't Markk.

The fact is I gave my reading of the exchange, and I made no claims about it being definitive. I said it makes more sense in that context. You've had your ass handed to you throughout this thread by Honor, demonstrating over and over again you have really no interest in discussing or getting to the truth on this subject. Your only objective is to defend your initial claims as they were dictated to you by Right Wing news outlets. You don't care about timelines. You don't care about evidence the Laptop data had been compromised by Hunter's political enemies. You have no interest in anything but to constantly regurgitate whatever the faux outrage machine tells you.
When you get in heated arguments with your kids, do you just start lying to your kids, making up lies about your upbringing?
How do you know he lied? It is entirely plausible that Hunter Biden paid his Dad half his check when he was a teen, but there is absolutely no plausibility to the claim he was paying him half his income in 2019 when he made millions. No plausibility whatsoever to that, but if it were true it sure does make for a juicy scandal huh? How could Hunter Biden be laundering that kind of cash to his Dad without the IRS noticing? More importantly, with JB already a millionaire what it in the world would be the purpose for that? Why risk his political career over money he doesn't need? We already saw from the email exchange that JB turned down a proposal to benefit from Hunter Biden's business dealings.

Back to the plausible scenario. My daughter pays me $350/month and she whines all the time about her expenses and how she doesn't have enough to entertain with her friends. I remind her than when I was a kid I didn't have a new car handed to me by my parents, and what's more, I had to pay for gasoline just to drive. She got a new car and drives as much as she wants for free. I know other parents who say similar things to their kids to make the point that their lives aren't the tragedy they sometimes make them out to be.
No Kevin I am looking at what Hunter said, he had to give Joe half his salary, and combing that with the other texts and e-mails.

The fact is I gave my reading of the exchange, and I made no claims about it being definitive. I said it makes more sense in that context. You've had your ass handed to you throughout this thread by Honor, demonstrating over and over again you have really no interest in discussing or getting to the truth on this subject. Your only objective is to defend your initial claims as they were dictated to you by Right Wing news outlets. You don't care about timelines. You don't care about evidence the Laptop data had been compromised by Hunter's political enemies. You have no interest in anything but to constantly regurgitate whatever the faux outrage machine tells you.
No, Honor can’t even explain what the e-mails mean…he is like jello in trying to get him to state his opinion with any fact…he just wiggles. At least you try, but just don’t think this through. Honor can’t explain how a lobbyist had power attorney of a VP’s account…other than saying he was an accountant. He hasn’t explained how Eric was paying Joes bills, with Hunters advice, form his (my) own account? He is just cherry picking and deflecting from any responsibility from Joe in all this.

Kevin…where this all goes who knows, honestly I think the Democrats are going to find a way to get rid of him, most likely for heath reasons. But if the Democrats get crushed in November, I doubt he survives his term, especially if the house is red and they seek pay backs for the Trump impeachment. And I believe if you are honest you understand there is no way he can run again is three years from a mental perspective.

We will see…maybe I am wrong is all this, maybe you guys are…maybe a little or a lot of both…we will see.
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Re: NBC news story on Hunter Biden

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Markk, can you or can you not provide a direct quote from Hunter Biden where he claims he was paying Joe's bills? I ask, knowing you can't. The "patterns" you see are no different than the apologetics that Mormons use to defend the Book of Mormon. No clean, unmanipulated or interpreted facts ever get presented. Just shotgunned pieces of unrelated "evidence" and proclamations those who can't see the truth of these "patterns" are deceived.

The whole world recognized Shokin as being corrupt and needing to go, just as the scientific evidence is overwhelmingly against there ever having been Lamanites. But you have Shokin and Russian propogandists saying otherwise so you go with the Lamanites being real.

The belief that Hunter paid Joe's bills was planted in your head to the point you didn't even know the evidence for this was being waved around and confabulated. But even when this is pointed out, you stick to your testimony. You've felt the spirit testify that Joe is dirty, there is a "pattern" even if no actual concrete evidence, and COCO sinks it's claws into you just a little bit more...
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Markk wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:30 pm
….the evidence is what the e-mails say. Kevin and Honor offer conjecture, like (paraphrase)‘he was just an upset father ranting with a teenage daughter’ , in other words they are ignoring what he actually wrote and stating without absolutely any evidence of their assertion. My assertion is simple and factual…
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Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:03 pm
Markk, did you ever raise hell when you were a teenager?
yes…LOL if you only knew…I gave my parents hell…Hunters daughter is a rookie. Go ahead with your plan now…this will be good.
No plan. I would only ask you how you’d interpret the statement by someone in an email … that you ‘raised hell’ when you were younger. Like, either draw that for me, or explain it. Without context.

You keep choosing to assign rudimentary and very selective literal meaning to certain phrasing. ‘My account’ - as phrasing used by Eric - means, for you, my actual account of my own money, versus the alternative view of this being an account controlled by one individual versus an account controlled by someone else.

There’s a reason why the other parts of this email chain haven’t been released to the public. Because doing so would dash your literal interpretation on the rocks, and you’d see what was really being referred to … and why there’s nothing untoward about it.

Again - ask yourself why you’re seeing just this one email from the chain.

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honorentheos wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:22 pm
Markk, can you or can you not provide a direct quote from Hunter Biden where he claims he was paying Joe's bills? I ask, knowing you can't. The "patterns" you see are no different than the apologetics that Mormons use to defend the Book of Mormon. No clean, unmanipulated or interpreted facts ever get presented. Just shotgunned pieces of unrelated "evidence" and proclamations those who can't see the truth of these "patterns" are deceived.

The whole world recognized Shokin as being corrupt and needing to go, just as the scientific evidence is overwhelmingly against there ever having been Lamanites. But you have Shokin and Russian propogandists saying otherwise so you go with the Lamanites being real.

The belief that Hunter paid Joe's bills was planted in your head to the point you didn't even know the evidence for this was being waved around and confabulated. But even when this is pointed out, you stick to your testimony. You've felt the spirit testify that Joe is dirty, there is a "pattern" even if no actual concrete evidence, and COCO sinks it's claws into you just a little bit more...
LOL …no just a lot circumstantial evidence he did. Or if not, a lot of circumstantial evidence that he was just giving him Money for other reasons.

LOL please provide evidence “the whole world” recognized Shokin was corrupt and had to go? If you watched the documentary there are Ukrainians on record, in interviews, saying otherwise.

Did a lot of people want him to go…yes. did the whole world…not quite, did he do more than the two IG’s before him to root out corruption… yes. Did the person who replaced him serve three years in prison for corruption…yes. Did JB say that this convict person was a good replacement …yes. Was Hunter Bidens boss a corrupt Russian back oligarch? Yes. Is Joe Biden a multi Millionaire yes. Is Hunter a ex crack head…yes. Is Devon archer, a friend of Joe’s, in prison for fraud…yes…Did Shokin getting fired benefit Hunter…LOL Probably big time. Were Hunter and Eric registered lobbyist…yes.

Who’s account was “my” of Eric’s? Why did Eric have power of attorney for JB? You said he did…do you have evidence of that? is there any direct quote stating that?

The Adhom’s get stronger and stronger as you get more and more frustrated…I get that,and I enjoy them. So keep them coming.

Love ya

Can you provide evidence that Joe did not receive any money.
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Markk wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:03 pm
Can you provide evidence that Joe did not receive any money
I can. Here it is:
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canpakes wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:11 pm
Markk wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:03 pm
Can you provide evidence that Joe did not receive any money
I can. Here it is:


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canpakes wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:26 pm
Markk wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:30 pm
….the evidence is what the e-mails say. Kevin and Honor offer conjecture, like (paraphrase)‘he was just an upset father ranting with a teenage daughter’ , in other words they are ignoring what he actually wrote and stating without absolutely any evidence of their assertion. My assertion is simple and factual…
Markk wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:49 pm


yes…LOL if you only knew…I gave my parents hell…Hunters daughter is a rookie. Go ahead with your plan now…this will be good.
No plan. I would only ask you how you’d interpret the statement by someone in an email … that you ‘raised hell’ when you were younger. Like, either draw that for me, or explain it. Without context.

You keep choosing to assign rudimentary and very selective literal meaning to certain phrasing. ‘My account’ - as phrasing used by Eric - means, for you, my actual account of my own money, versus the alternative view of this being an account controlled by one individual versus an account controlled by someone else.

There’s a reason why the other parts of this email chain haven’t been released to the public. Because doing so would dash your literal interpretation on the rocks, and you’d see what was really being referred to … and why there’s nothing untoward about it.

Again - ask yourself why you’re seeing just this one email from the chain.

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LOL you want me to tell you what I did to raise hell? LOL me and some friends pee’d in the scout room behind the stage at MIA, and had to go talk to the Bishop and disinfect the room…???LoL

Words mean absolutely nothing without context…???? Your request makes no sense at all.

I am cracking up at your plan here just spit it out….or I’ll just keep playing, I enjoy talking with you.

gotta run, late Friday concrete pour and am going to have to fight traffic for the next 3 hours.
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You keep fightin’ the good fight, Markk. God bless you, and God bless the work you’re doing. Someone has got to pour the concrete, Lord knows the libs in this world ain’t doin’ it. They’re all on welfare getting all that free DEMOCRAP inflation money! :lol: :twisted: :evil: :x

Let’s see if this post stays here, or if fake “Dr.” Shades will let it stay. :x

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Re: NBC news story on Hunter Biden

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Markk wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:14 pm
I am cracking up at your plan here just spit it out….or I’ll just keep playing, I enjoy talking with you.

My plan is to watch you type a lot of words for another two years, while still continuing to be unable to post any evidence for your claims.
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Markk wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:30 pm
False, and again you can jump in anytime instead of just continue being a outside critic with drive by remarks….the evidence is what the e-mails say. Kevin and Honor offer conjecture, like (paraphrase)‘he was just an upset father ranting with a teenage daughter’ , in other words they are ignoring what he actually wrote and stating without absolutely any evidence of their assertion. My assertion is simple and factual…Their are several texts and e-mails that imply Hunter paid bills for Joe, even from his salary.
My drive by remarks are likely slightly better than your posts. You offer conjecture and scoff at the suggestion that your sources are deliberately lacking context. They are. You scoff at other's conjectures but insist yours are the only possible correct ones. The pure truth. Your assertion is not simple, its convoluted. It may involve facts, but you ignore context. You have a few emails and texts revealed by political enemies and don't seem to understand why it might matter that we don't have access to the rest of it that might provide context that goes against your presupposed notions,

That's the point.

You came in here screaming about the obvious corruption of Joe Biden, but have no proof. You say he is corrupt and expect everyone to accept your point of view, facts be dammed. I'm no Biden fan, but this is just silly.
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