January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

[Binger]

A Congressional hearing is absolutely not a court of law. By design. Why would anyone expect a Congressional hearing to be a court of law? Are there overlaps with a court of law? Yes. But a Congressional hearing cannot bring criminal charges, try a criminal case, or apply a punishment. So, uh, let's keep our dissatisfaction in the realm of the real instead of moaning about dumb crap.

Yep. Kish is exactly right. It was not a court of law. It is not a court of law. It is just a thing that was done for cameras that resembles a court-like thing.

And therein lies the problem... all this was done for show or just to be heard and now AG Garland is left with a conundrum and a theatrical mess.

Scheduling hearings for prime time achieved something, at a price. At a very big price.

[canpakes]

The trial, er, court, er, hearing, was not meant to help you see anything but one side.

The ‘other side’ of that situation had already chosen to present its own case via over 60 failed and frivolous lawsuits, attempts to overturn an election, threats to election officials, a campaign to push asinine lies by a person at the top of the media and political hierarchy with the greatest visible public podium of the Presidency, and - ultimately - by deciding that no amount of facts and reasoning would be enough to sway them, choosing instead to deal with their chagrin by crashing their way into the Capitol, law enforcement be damned.

The only folks whose ‘trust in the system has been broken’ never chose to believe in the system anyway once it disagreed with what they wanted, and now they’re angry that the rest of the Nation might hold some of them accountable for their BS.

The new whining about a price to be paid is merely an extension of the same lie, by the same folks.

[Binger]

The trial, er, court, er, hearing, was not meant to help you see anything but one side.

The ‘other side’ of that situation had already chosen to present its own case via over 60 failed and frivolous lawsuits, attempts to overturn an election, threats to election officials, a campaign to push asinine lies by a person at the top of the media and political hierarchy with the greatest visible public podium of the Presidency, and - ultimately - by deciding that no amount of facts and reasoning would be enough to sway them, choosing instead to deal with their chagrin by crashing their way into the Capitol, law enforcement be damned.

The only folks whose ‘trust in the system has been broken’ never chose to believe in the system anyway once it disagreed with what they wanted, and now they’re angry that the rest of the Nation might hold some of them accountable for their BS.

The new whining about a price to be paid is merely an extension of the same lie, by the same folks.

So it was a tit for tat? Lovely. I agree with you. It comes across exactly as you describe, just a one-sided rant and theater because those other kids had a rant and theater first.

In the meantime, the drop boxes and vote by mail and after-dark counting of 99.7% ballots for a single candidate will continue so what difference does it make? No difference. The point has been made and it is very clear that there will be no changes from either side. The only thing we should expect to come out of this kangaroo court/theater is that the order of events may change.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Morons will always defend Trump. That is clear.

Kangaroo court... only a damned moron would call it that.

I just get this face

-_-

anytime a Conservative starts running their cockholsters.

It’s something to watch when GOPhers who believe themselves to be smarter than others openly spout BS, lies, and untruths as if it were the most natural way of being ever. They think their endless outrage and appalled reaction to social issues are some form of legitimate access to The Truth, and as such they just say stuff. It never matters if the stuff they say is grounded in reality, but rather the act of pushing words through their teeth is enough proof in of itself that whatever reality they want to create in the moment is good enough as long as it’s been uttered.

- Doc

[Binger]

Morons will always defend Trump. That is clear.

Kangaroo court... only a damned moron would call it that.

I just get this face

-_-

anytime a Conservative starts running their cockholsters.

It’s something to watch when GOPhers who believe themselves to be smarter than others openly spout BS, lies, and untruths as if it were the most natural way of being ever. They think their endless outrage and appalled reaction to social issues are some form of legitimate access to The Truth, and as such they just say stuff. It never matters if the stuff they say is grounded in reality, but rather the act of pushing words through their teeth is enough proof in of itself that whatever reality they want to create in the moment is good enough as long as it’s been uttered.

- Doc

On the other hand, this ^^^^^^ is as factual and truthful as gravity and the testimony of the three witnesses.

[Some Schmo]

I just get this face

-_-

anytime a Conservative starts running their cockholsters.

It’s something to watch when GOPhers who believe themselves to be smarter than others openly spout BS, lies, and untruths as if it were the most natural way of being ever. They think their endless outrage and appalled reaction to social issues are some form of legitimate access to The Truth, and as such they just say stuff. It never matters if the stuff they say is grounded in reality, but rather the act of pushing words through their teeth is enough proof in of itself that whatever reality they want to create in the moment is good enough as long as it’s been uttered.

- Doc

Yep. These are the type of people who, if Trump told them to, would start talking about that old movie Airplane! as though it were a documentary. They act as if they'll fall for anything, because they have.

It's impossible to take Trump defenders seriously, primarily because they've proven themselves over and over to be entirely full of crap and willing to believe obvious nonsense. And honestly, it's not in their best interests to be taken seriously, because if they were, they couldn't whine and moan like babies about every damned thing. Being taken seriously doesn't fit in with their idiotic persecution complex. They're little bitches who refuse to coexist with the rest of the world (a.k.a. sane people).

[canpakes]

The ‘other side’ of that situation had already chosen to present its own case via over 60 failed and frivolous lawsuits, attempts to overturn an election, threats to election officials, a campaign to push asinine lies by a person at the top of the media and political hierarchy with the greatest visible public podium of the Presidency, and - ultimately - by deciding that no amount of facts and reasoning would be enough to sway them, choosing instead to deal with their chagrin by crashing their way into the Capitol, law enforcement be damned.

The only folks whose ‘trust in the system has been broken’ never chose to believe in the system anyway once it disagreed with what they wanted, and now they’re angry that the rest of the Nation might hold some of them accountable for their BS.

The new whining about a price to be paid is merely an extension of the same lie, by the same folks.

So it was a tit for tat? Lovely. I agree with you. It comes across exactly as you describe, just a one-sided rant and theater because those other kids had a rant and theater first.

Only if you consider every process of fact-finding or justice to be a ‘tit for tat’ that must be eschewed to protect the tender sensibilities of people who do stupid or illegal crap. If that causes you to lose your faith (whatever that undefined faith was) in the system (however you selectively decide what that is at the moment), then you’re in a bit of a jam, having ceded all moral or procedural ground.

In the meantime, the drop boxes and vote by mail and after-dark counting of 99.7% ballots for a single candidate will continue so what difference does it make?

It won’t make a difference to folks as yourself who want to believe in the conspiratorial bullshyte you just repeated there. But your anger at others for asking that you either put up or shut up by making your case with facts is noted, as is your excuse-making for the illegal and destructive approach taken by the folks you’re defending.

Anyone can stack up what was claimed by the MAGA fanbois against what the J6 committee has presented. MAGA World has little, if anything, to show for virtually all of their claims and nothing to justify the excuses for their behavior. On the other hand, J6 World doesn’t seem to be doing much more than shining a flashlight on MAGA World’s own claims and behavior. And that angers you, and makes you claim that you’ve lost faith in the system, and then you threaten the rationals with an unstated ‘price that must be paid’.

If you want to be the problematic and dishonest rebel without a cause, and without any facts by your side, then no one is going to convince you otherwise. Stand on that side all that you want. Your life is your life, as the man once said.

[Binger]

So it was a tit for tat? Lovely. I agree with you. It comes across exactly as you describe, just a one-sided rant and theater because those other kids had a rant and theater first.

Only if you consider every process of fact-finding or justice to be a ‘tit for tat’ that must be eschewed to protect the tender sensibilities of people who do stupid or illegal crap. If that causes you to lose your faith (whatever that undefined faith was) in the system (however you selectively decide what that is at the moment), then you’re in a bit of a jam, having ceded all moral or procedural ground.

In the meantime, the drop boxes and vote by mail and after-dark counting of 99.7% ballots for a single candidate will continue so what difference does it make?

It won’t make a difference to folks as yourself who want to believe in the conspiratorial bullshyte you just repeated there. But your anger at others for asking that you either put up or shut up by making your case with facts is noted, as is your excuse-making for the illegal and destructive approach taken by the folks you’re defending.

Anyone can stack up what was claimed by the MAGA fanbois against what the J6 committee has presented. MAGA World has little, if anything, to show for virtually all of their claims and nothing to justify the excuses for their behavior. On the other hand, J6 World doesn’t seem to be doing much more than shining a flashlight on MAGA World’s own claims and behavior. And that angers you, and makes you claim that you’ve lost faith in the system, and then you threaten the rationals with an unstated ‘price that must be paid’.

If you want to be the problematic and dishonest rebel without a cause, and without any facts by your side, then no one is going to convince you otherwise. Stand on that side all that you want. Your life is your life, as the man once said.

I like this analogy, panny.

The J6 world that you imagine versus the MAGA world that you imagine.

There is no conspiratorial BS about what I wrote. Drop boxes are real. Counting ballots after dark is real. 99.7% of ballots counted in the dark of night going for a single candidate on the top of the ticket is real. I will even go so far as to say that the ballots were real and represented real voters. Hell if I know and I do not care. Nothing about any of that is a conspiracy. It is all just the facts.

I agree that this is an imaginary MAGA World versus J6 World though. Reminds of professional wrestling, which is a very real business.

[canpakes]

There is no conspiratorial BS about what I wrote. Drop boxes are real. Counting ballots after dark is real.

Indeed drop boxes are real, and some votes get counted after sundown. Usually, most of them, considering when the polls close. Maybe you’d prefer that folks wait until the next morning?

Anyway, why would that require a mention, unless …

99.7% of ballots counted in the dark of night going for a single candidate on the top of the ticket is real.

: D
There it is! The conspiratorial bullshyte makes the appearance, after the mention of this mysterious counting of ballots … after dark.

You should start a thread to examine that conspiratorial bullshyte. Maybe another one on how votes were counted after dark. This can be a new distraction, after starting in on and then abandoning your pretense about the J6 being a ‘kangaroo court’.

[Binger]

There is no conspiratorial BS about what I wrote. Drop boxes are real. Counting ballots after dark is real.

Indeed drop boxes are real, and some votes get counted after sundown. Usually, most of them, considering when the polls close. Maybe you’d prefer that folks wait until the next morning?

Anyway, why would that require a mention, unless …

99.7% of ballots counted in the dark of night going for a single candidate on the top of the ticket is real.

: D
There it is! The conspiratorial bullshyte makes the appearance, after the mention of this mysterious counting of ballots … after dark.

You should start a thread to examine that conspiratorial bullshyte. Maybe another one on how votes were counted after dark. This can be a new distraction, after starting in on and then abandoning your pretense about the J6 being a ‘kangaroo court’.

So, it is your position that there was not a batch of ballots counted after dark that was disproportionately for a candidate, including batches that were up to 99.7% for Biden? That position is noted.

As for your suggestion of starting a thread. I selectively post because my posts are selectively permitted. Isn't that something, panny? Someone may believe they are reading a real thread with a real conversation, but, it is not actually real. It is just what you allow and what I think you will allow. Think about the parallels there?

On the one hand.... "cockholsters" and "bitches", on the other hand the conversation is subject to review. I can see why you would want me to start a thread.