Mar-A-Lago Legally Searched by FBI

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Moksha wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:13 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:10 pm
Christ. This stinks of Trump treason again.
That means the Republican Senators will give him a standing ovation and then call for armed revolt.
Is this true, or just a conspiracy that you believe?
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Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:10 pm
Christ. This stinks of Trump treason again.
Yes, but long experience in England led someone to make up this little rhyme a few centuries back:
Treason doth never prosper - what's the reason?
Why, if it prospers, then 'tis never treason!
If Trump is convicted of a treasonous act, that will only strengthen the determination of Trump and his supporters to get him back into power.
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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:34 pm
There is going to be a lot of legal wrangling around the presidents ability to "declassify" documents, and the process thereof. Classified material for the most part is still considered classified until it has been remarked, and the knowledge of the declassification disseminated. Can a president ad-hoc declassify nuclear weapons related documents?

Regardless - there are other laws governing the releasing of "national defense" related documents independent of classification. One such 18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information - I believe Trump himself signed into law.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

The big ?? one must ask "to what end did Trump take TS/SCI type nuclear weapon related documents into his possession?" and store them in such a slipshod manner.
Doesn't really matter as Biden can just classify them as Top Secret now that he's President and Trump had no right to steal them in the first place. But yeah, this idea that Trump can just magically declassify 15 boxes of classified docs with a wave of his hand is nonsense. There is a process that has to be implemented and each document has to be designated as such.

I suspect these docs relating to nukes aren't as sensitive as the media is making out, but I could be wrong. It is just unfathomable that anyone would leave office, steal sensitive docs relating to nuclear capabilities and then just throw them in a shed out by the pool.
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Binger wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:16 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:10 pm
Christ. This stinks of Trump treason again.
Oh, did an anonymous source make an anonymous stench?
Moron doesn't understand the importance of anonymity and probably mumbles "rat" under his breath while typing this.
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Vēritās wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:31 pm
Binger wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:16 pm


Oh, did an anonymous source make an anonymous stench?
Moron doesn't understand the importance of anonymity and probably mumbles "rat" under his breath while typing this.
I understand the importance of anonymity and never mumbled “rat”. Have you any other lie, fantasies or conspiracies?
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11 sets of classified docs including at least on TS/SCI.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/12/politics ... index.html
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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:50 pm
11 sets of classified docs including at least on TS/SCI.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/12/politics ... index.html
This is espionage.

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I used to hold a TS/SCI clearance. I'd be in federal custody already. President is the ultimate arbitrator of classified vs declassified but there is some process involved. Even if he claims and is able to make stick the claims he declassed the documents, if they contained information re "national security/military" and it appears he was trying to disseminate or through negligence had disseminated the information - he faces significant legal jeopardy.


Again the question I ask is "WHY DID HE TAKE THESE DOCUMENTS"" - to what end?
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https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2022/08/10/ ... it-n488788
But it was only a week or so ago that a US attorney decided to go to a Florida judge to seek a search warrant. The judge agreed and the FBI began planning the search for a time when Trump would not be there. The story points to the FBI’s focus on a few specific areas as proof they knew where to look. But curiously this story doesn’t mention the June meeting between investigators and Trump’s lawyers when they looked through some of the documents kept in a basement storage room. In other words, the DOJ didn’t need a secret source to know the documents were kept in that particular room because they’d seen them there themselves and, at the time, not taken them.
Some anonymous sources are funnier than other anonymous sources. But hey, get your conspiracy hats on. This is HUGE.

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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:12 pm

Again the question I ask is "WHY DID HE TAKE THESE DOCUMENTS"" - to what end?
Exactly. It's the answer to this question that everything is going to hinge on.
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