What is true or not true about Seattle dying?

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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 2:41 pm
Houston, Dallas, SA and Austin are all going this same damn direction.
Let's say I have a town that's attracting big business for the cheap land and labor available. I know based on countless examples, that as wages rise, that my fixed income people or those otherwise barely making it are going to feel the squeeze. This is an externality. According to free-market principles, people will simply move to areas they can afford, but in reality that doesn't happen. Maybe some do, but many do not. And so there is this externality that comes with injecting big money into the economy. Knowing this in advance, shouldn't we, as the ruling body of the town, levy taxes on the business from the start in order to pay for the future programs, whatever they may be, to help those displaced by the money?

Granted, this may ruin the deal, as the big business will look elsewhere. But shouldn't we as the town rulers shrug it off and say we don't want it if it can't be sustainable?
I am not fully tracking what you are trying to say. I understand it is snarky, but I don't quite get it. It almost sounds like you ..... hell, I have no idea what it sounds like.
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that's quite a take. I don't think it was snarky.

You said you agreed that big money flowing into cities puts fixed income and low income people on the streets.

All I wanted to know is if you felt it was appropriate to offset that problem before it happens, by telling these big corporations when they're moving into cheap areas that they're going to have to pay for the damage their money inevitably will do.
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Gadianton wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:40 am
that's quite a take. I don't think it was snarky.

You said you agreed that big money flowing into cities puts fixed income and low income people on the streets.

All I wanted to know is if you felt it was appropriate to offset that problem before it happens, by telling these big corporations when they're moving into cheap areas that they're going to have to pay for the damage their money inevitably will do.
That is not what I said. I did say I agreed, yes. I agree that "as any of these surging redneck cities are today, Seattle and LA once were."

Companies coming must work with the community to provide the services required. Yes.
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huckelberry wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:42 pm
There are streets that a person feels a parachute might be good safety assist for driving down.
When I was in my early twenties I lived in the Seattle area a friend who worked near the Seattle waterfront loaned me his Ford Bronco, which had a manual transmission. At the time I only had very limited experience with a four-on-the-floor, and the Bronco was a three-on-the-tree. By the time the Seattle streets and my inept shifting were done with it, it was a ... what, a two-in-the-goo? Two-at-the-zoo? Anyway, it wasn't good. Those hills can be bloody murder. (My friend forgave me, but the Bronco never did.)
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Bret Ripley wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 2:08 pm
huckelberry wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:42 pm
There are streets that a person feels a parachute might be good safety assist for driving down.
When I was in my early twenties I lived in the Seattle area a friend who worked near the Seattle waterfront loaned me his Ford Bronco, which had a manual transmission. At the time I only had very limited experience with a four-on-the-floor, and the Bronco was a three-on-the-tree. By the time the Seattle streets and my inept shifting were done with it, it was a ... what, a two-in-the-goo? Two-at-the-zoo? Anyway, it wasn't good. Those hills can be bloody murder. (My friend forgave me, but the Bronco never did.)
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My 67 Bronco 3 on the tree is now a 5 on the floor.
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Bret Ripley wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 2:08 pm
huckelberry wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:42 pm
There are streets that a person feels a parachute might be good safety assist for driving down.
When I was in my early twenties I lived in the Seattle area a friend who worked near the Seattle waterfront loaned me his Ford Bronco, which had a manual transmission. At the time I only had very limited experience with a four-on-the-floor, and the Bronco was a three-on-the-tree. By the time the Seattle streets and my inept shifting were done with it, it was a ... what, a two-in-the-goo? Two-at-the-zoo? Anyway, it wasn't good. Those hills can be bloody murder. (My friend forgave me, but the Bronco never did.)
I drove a couple manual transmission cars around Seattle for years. I learned to heel/toe the brake and gas pedals on those hills. I doubt I've retained that skill. :lol:
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:20 pm
I drove a couple manual transmission cars around Seattle for years. I learned to heel/toe the brake and gas pedals on those hills. I doubt I've retained that skill. :lol:
In my dad's old Ford, I learned the perfect position for the parking brake that would barely keep me from rolling back, and wouldn't cause much resistance getting going. Once the ole beast was moving; would just reach down and give the lever a pull to release.

Saved me from kissing a front bumper with my tuchus in many a parking garage incline.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:36 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:20 pm
I drove a couple manual transmission cars around Seattle for years. I learned to heel/toe the brake and gas pedals on those hills. I doubt I've retained that skill. :lol:
In my dad's old Ford, I learned the perfect position for the parking brake that would barely keep me from rolling back, and wouldn't cause much resistance getting going. Once the ole beast was moving; would just reach down and give the lever a pull to release.

Saved me from kissing a front bumper with my tuchus in many a parking garage incline.
Yep, another good technique. I just wasn't good at it.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:36 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:20 pm
I drove a couple manual transmission cars around Seattle for years. I learned to heel/toe the brake and gas pedals on those hills. I doubt I've retained that skill. :lol:
In my dad's old Ford, I learned the perfect position for the parking brake that would barely keep me from rolling back, and wouldn't cause much resistance getting going. Once the ole beast was moving; would just reach down and give the lever a pull to release.

Saved me from kissing a front bumper with my tuchus in many a parking garage incline.
When I lived in SF I had a 1951 Packard Convertible. It had an automatic transmission but also had the old original brakes. I had Earl Campbell quads and calves after a few years of driving from the Marina to Noe Valley or across the GG Bridge and through the headlands.
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