The Friendship Recession? Social Circles are Shrinking

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:13 pm
doubtingthomas wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:52 pm
True, but can it also be the other way around? Having no friend might lead to more computer gaming. Similar to what this paper points out in the conclusion. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/1 ... 3121996854
As usual, you are working backwards in how you misuse research.
That's literally what the paper says in the conclusion, almost word for word.
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:13 pm
In other words, the study directly contradicts what you are trying to force an unrelated reverse correlation for.
Read the fourth paragraph under Discussion and Conclusion.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/1 ... 3121996854
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:13 pm
Incidentally, the study specifically states that the increase in frequency of computer gaming cannot explain the decline in casual sex
I don't disagree.
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:52 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:42 pm
Online interactions, especially in gaming, may encourage behavior that works against forming close friendships.
True, but can it also be the other way around? Having no friend might lead to more computer gaming. Similar to what this paper points out in the conclusion. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/1 ... 3121996854

Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:42 pm
he survey found that 15% of men have no close friendships at all, a fivefold increase since 1990.
Interesting.

Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:42 pm
Ah, I missed that.
Women are more likely to feel lonely.

"Looking by demographic group, men were more likely to say they never felt lonely than women
(25% compared with 19%). "
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... report.pdf
canpakes wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:15 pm
Is there an intersection here between that opinion, and what this article is speaking about?
Maybe. I'm not sure.
Dr. Steuss called it. You're just doing more of the same.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:42 pm
Then you factor in boards like this with regular posters who have formed some kind of relationship over the years, sometimes contentious and sometimes as comfortable and familiar as an old pair of jeans. Are we all friends?
Yes, I think most of us are here because we don't have many friends.

I'm your friend. :D
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:14 am

Dr. Steuss called it. You're just doing more of the same.
Sir, did you bother to read the fourth paragraph under Discussion and Conclusion?

I'm not concluding anything, I'm simply asking: True, but can it also be the other way around? Having no friends might lead to more computer gaming.

Jesus Christ! This is ridiculous!
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:17 am
Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:14 am

Dr. Steuss called it. You're just doing more of the same.
Sir, did you bother to read the fourth paragraph under Discussion and Conclusion?

I'm not concluding anything, I'm simply asking: True, but can it also be the other way around? Having no friends might lead to more computer gaming.

Jesus Christ! This is ridiculous!
Yes. I agree. The way you mangle evidence is so ridiculous it's a waste of time trying to interact with you. You cited a paper that addresses decline in casual sex (i.e., non-relationship sex) as suggesting that men play more video games because they have fewer close friends. Both papers argue that the cause runs backwards from what you are claiming. The first suggests that men have fewer close friendships because of the toxic behavior they learn in on line gaming. The second suggests that young men who play more video games have less casual sex. (Seems kind of like a "duh" to me.) Nothing in either paper suggests that playing online games is the effect, and neither provides evidence in support of what you want to argue.

So, yeah, Jesus Christ. Learn to read a paper and use it appropriately.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:30 am
The second suggests that young men who play more video games have less casual sex. (Seems kind of like a "duh" to me.)
Jesus Christ Res Ipsa! Have you read the fourth paragraph under Discussion and Conclusion?

That's not necessarily the cause.
Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:30 am
(Seems kind of like a "duh" to me.) Nothing in either paper suggests that playing online games is the effect, and neither provides evidence in support of what you want to argue.
I'm not saying it does.

What happened to the intelligent version of you?
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:30 am
doubtingthomas wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:17 am


Sir, did you bother to read the fourth paragraph under Discussion and Conclusion?

I'm not concluding anything, I'm simply asking: True, but can it also be the other way around? Having no friends might lead to more computer gaming.

Jesus Christ! This is ridiculous!
Yes. I agree. The way you mangle evidence is so ridiculous it's a waste of time trying to interact with you. You cited a paper that addresses decline in casual sex (i.e., non-relationship sex) as suggesting that men play more video games because they have fewer close friends. Both papers argue that the cause runs backwards from what you are claiming. The first suggests that men have fewer close friendships because of the toxic behavior they learn in on line gaming. The second suggests that young men who play more video games have less casual sex. (Seems kind of like a "duh" to me.) Nothing in either paper suggests that playing online games is the effect, and neither provides evidence in support of what you want to argue.

So, yeah, Jesus Christ. Learn to read a paper and use it appropriately.
Agreed. And to DT, an article about men is not an article about people. Your casual sexism is inappropriate. As usual.
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Marcus wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:56 am
Agreed. And to DT, an article about men is not an article about people. Your casual sexism is inappropriate.
:roll: Notice that everybody is ignoring you about this. Why keep repeating the same thing over and over again? Your insecurities are showing.

But don't worry, next week I'll give you an opportunity to show off your skills, Professor Marcus!

I'll be preparing a very tough statistics question that only a statistician would know how to answer. Google won't be of any help.

I'm just letting you know in advance ;) It should be very easy for you because you are a Professor of Statistics.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:30 am
The second suggests that young men who play more video games have less casual sex. (Seems kind of like a "duh" to me.) Nothing in either paper suggests that playing online games is the effect, and neither provides evidence in support of what you want to argue.
Read the fourth paragraph under Discussion and Conclusion. I wasn't arguing anything, I was simply asking a question.

Don't disappoint me.
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