Why Do Biblical Christians Think God Doesn't Inspire the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

[msnobody]

It is my understanding that a true prophet would have had a divine encounter with God, whatever a prophet says comes to pass (Deut.18), is empowered to do miraculous things (Deut. 12), and Deut. 13:1-5 Though a prophet may perform miracles, do not listen if he teaches contrary to the word of the LORD.

Msnobody, does God agree with that understanding? Does God think that a true prophet must have all those characteristics?

Basically, my answer to your question would be that TCoJCoLDS leadership does not teach the biblical gospel.

Msnobody, what does teaching or not teaching the biblical gospel have to do with whether or not God has chosen the leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to speak for Her/Him?

I believe God gave us this means to test those who claim to speak for Him, so we won't be led astray. Yes, all those characteristics.

You asked, " what does teaching or not teaching the biblical gospel have to do with whether or not God has chosen the leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to speak for Her/Him?"

Absolutely everything! For it is impossible for God to lie.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Absolutely everything! For it is impossible for God to lie.

Is it any better if he gets others to do it for him (1 Kings 21-23)? It’s essentially the same thing, except for it’s more perverse because he forces others into this game of deception. It’d just be better for him to lie and then own it.

- Doc

[Rivendale]

Msnobody, does God agree with that understanding? Does God think that a true prophet must have all those characteristics?

Msnobody, what does teaching or not teaching the biblical gospel have to do with whether or not God has chosen the leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to speak for Her/Him?

I believe God gave us this means to test those who claim to speak for Him, so we won't be led astray. Yes, all those characteristics.

You asked, " what does teaching or not teaching the biblical gospel have to do with whether or not God has chosen the leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to speak for Her/Him?"

Absolutely everything! For it is impossible for God to lie.

I thought he just quit being god if he lied.

[dastardly stem]

How would anyone every know if God could or has lied? He'd have to have lied if he has any awareness at all. There'd be no escaping it, I'd think.

[msnobody]

I believe God gave us this means to test those who claim to speak for Him, so we won't be led astray. Yes, all those characteristics.

You asked, " what does teaching or not teaching the biblical gospel have to do with whether or not God has chosen the leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to speak for Her/Him?"

Absolutely everything! For it is impossible for God to lie.

I thought he just quit being god if he lied.

Probably so.

[msnobody]

Absolutely everything! For it is impossible for God to lie.

Is it any better if he gets others to do it for him (1 Kings 21-23)? It’s essentially the same thing, except for it’s more perverse because he forces others into this game of deception. It’d just be better for him to lie and then own it.

- Doc

Are you referring to when God decides it is time for Ahab to die and allows a divine council member to come up with a plan in 1Kings 22::21-23?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Is it any better if he gets others to do it for him (1 Kings 21-23)? It’s essentially the same thing, except for it’s more perverse because he forces others into this game of deception. It’d just be better for him to lie and then own it.

- Doc

Are you referring to when God decides it is time for Ahab to die and allows a divine council member to come up with a plan in 1Kings 22::21-23?

Whoops, yes, chapter 22 regarding whether or not Israel should attack Syria and all that business. God gets 400 prophets to lie to Ahab.

- Doc

[msnobody]

Are you referring to when God decides it is time for Ahab to die and allows a divine council member to come up with a plan in 1Kings 22::21-23?

Whoops, yes, chapter 22 regarding whether or not Israel should attack Syria and all that business. God gets 400 prophets to lie to Ahab.

- Doc

The good news is that Yahweh is working to reclaim the disinherited nations, and one day the good guys will replace the disloyal elohim of the divine council who rule the disinherited nations.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Whoops, yes, chapter 22 regarding whether or not Israel should attack Syria and all that business. God gets 400 prophets to lie to Ahab.

- Doc

The good news is that Yahweh is working to reclaim the disinherited nations, and one day the good guys will replace the disloyal elohim of the divine council who rule the disinherited nations.

What does that have to do with the Jewish god lying by proxy?

- Doc

[msnobody]

The good news is that Yahweh is working to reclaim the disinherited nations, and one day the good guys will replace the disloyal elohim of the divine council who rule the disinherited nations.

What does that have to do with the Jewish god lying by proxy?

- Doc

I think I’ve opened up a huge can of worms.
I’m really tired and should probably wait until I’ve had some sleep, but here goes.

It is my understanding that the spirit in verse 21 is a member of the heavenly host/divine council, an elohim disloyal to Yahweh.

It is my understanding that God (Elohim) allows lesser elohim (loyal and disloyal) to co-rule with him. These elohim (disembodied or unembodied) spirits, like us, exercise free will.

God has allowed this disloyal elohim to come up with the plan of how Ahab will die, and allows this plan to play out.

Verse 23 does say that the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth of Ahab’s prophets.

I’m really tired. I’ll look at this again tomorrow, and hopefully won’t wonder what was I thinking.