The Friendship Recession? Social Circles are Shrinking

[doubtingthomas]

You saved me the trouble at looking at the context for that one. I was pretty suspicious of DT's conclusion because there is a difference between "men are more likely to say they never feel lonely" and "men are less lonely than women."

I'ts not my fault that you guys are not reading my words carefully.

Women are more likely to feel lonely.

What games are you playing?

The willingness to talk about feelings and admit something like feeling lonely is a confounding factor.

I don't disagree, but women are still more likely to report feeling lonely.

[doubtingthomas]

Growing individualism and reduced sociability might lead to less partying (and hence less drinking), more computer gaming, and less autonomous living, while also diminishing the desire for sexual intercourse—at least the type of casual encounters captured in this analysis.

What was that? Exactly!

Jesus Christ!

[canpakes]

Over the years, I can't even begin to count just how many times I have benefited from others here, who share their knowledge and expertise so generously. Not just in subjects they are well-versed on because of their education and/or career, but on subjects they have taken the (considerable amount of) time and effort to learn about.

This is how I ended up here, and why I enjoy this board.

[Doctor Steuss]

What was that? Exactly!

Jesus Christ!

I'm glad the shock of your drastic misunderstanding and inability to accurately synthesize information, and the hilariously bad backwards approach finally set it. When I saw you double-down yet again, I cringed pretty hard.

Took a bit, but at least we're there.

[Res Ipsa]

You saved me the trouble at looking at the context for that one. I was pretty suspicious of DT's conclusion because there is a difference between "men are more likely to say they never feel lonely" and "men are less lonely than women."

I'ts not my fault that you guys are not reading my words carefully.

Women are more likely to feel lonely.

What games are you playing?

The willingness to talk about feelings and admit something like feeling lonely is a confounding factor.

I don't disagree, but women are still more likely to report feeling lonely.

This is just another example of your unwillingness or inability to read for comprehension. As loneliness is a feeling, there is no meaningful distinction between "feeling lonely" and "being lonely." It's a silly nitpick that functions to disguise the fact that you misrepresented what the article says by, once again, grabbing a snippet without thinking about context.

Here's what you said, apparently in response to Marcus pointing out the title of the article you posted (Why men are lonelier in America than elsewhere).

Women are more likely to feel lonely.

Then you quoted a snippet from the article that didn't say what you said. The relevant distinction is "feeling/being lonely" vs. "saying I feel/am lonely". And you omitted the context that immediately followed your snippet, which indicated that women, in fact, don't feel more lonely.

I'm not playing games. You're a mess when it comes to understanding and using journal articles.

[Res Ipsa]

What was that? Exactly!

Jesus Christ!

This type of emotional reaction is one of your "tells." When you are tempted to give this type of response, the problem is almost certainly that you haven't taken the time to read and understand what someone else is saying.

[doubtingthomas]

The relevant distinction is "feeling/being lonely" vs. "saying I feel/am lonely".

Sir, I just said that.

I don't disagree, but women are still more likely to report feeling lonely.

As loneliness is a feeling, there is no meaningful distinction between "feeling lonely" and "being lonely."

When I say, "Women are more likely to feel lonely" that's obviously based on what women report. That's what most normal people would think.
If I say: He is hungry, you would be stupid to say "The relevant distinction is "feeling/being hungry" vs. "saying I feel/am hungry""

I'm not playing games. You're a mess when it comes to understanding and using journal articles.

Why did you ignore the limitations of the study I shared ? Here is what Doctor Steuss just quoted

Growing individualism and reduced sociability might lead to less partying (and hence less drinking), more computer gaming, and less autonomous living, while also diminishing the desire for sexual intercourse—at least the type of casual encounters captured in this analysis.

Please explain that.

[Marcus]

Looking by demographic group, men were more likely to say they never felt lonely than women (25% compared with 19%).

This is in contrast to findings in sections 1.1 and 1.2, which showed women were more likely to have regular contact with family and friends across a range of communication methods, and more likely to agree they have support networks.

And from your misreading of this, DT, you've now posted, for the 3rd or 4th time, this bit of falsehood:

I'ts not my fault that you guys are not reading my words carefully.

Women are more likely to feel lonely.

And just in case you are still not getting it, according to YOUR source, MEN are more likely to SAY they "never felt lonely," and then YOUR source explains how that does NOT fit with their research, and then they explain why!!

Res ipsa is exactly correct,

...You're a mess when it comes to understanding and using journal articles....

[doubtingthomas]

...You're a mess when it comes to understanding and using journal articles....

Nah!

Res and Doctor Steuss messed up pretty bad here.

So, for everyone’s enjoyment, here’s the paragraph from a study on casual sex that doubtingthomas has decided not only supports “Having no friend might lead to more computer gaming," but that it's "literally what the paper says in the conclusion, almost word for word."

Growing individualism and reduced sociability might lead to less partying (and hence less drinking), more computer gaming, and less autonomous living, while also diminishing the desire for sexual intercourse—at least the type of casual encounters captured in this analysis.

How embarrassing. They won't acknowledge their mistake, and you are agreeing with them.

[doubtingthomas]

DT refers to this reverse causation as a conclusion of the study.

That's not true. Here's what I said,

Read the fourth paragraph under Discussion and Conclusion.