Will the Republic as we know it end?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Maybe, but I see this as an exaggeration of the mainstream media. The Jan 6 "coup" was pretty tepid, in my mind, in comparison to real coups that we ran in central america and in the rest of the world.

That’s not the flex you think it is.

The military was absent in this clown show …

That was by design by your own guys.

… and no one had the kind of arms necessary to carry out a coup.

They literally took the Capitol, and had it not been for a few brave souls the insurrectionists would’ve reached legislators.

Trump bitched and is still bitching over 2020.

Yeah, and all that bitching has caused an extraordinary amount of lies, scheming, and mistrust in our system propagated mostly by agents on the Right. We have insane delusional retards posting on this very forum pushing these lies thanks to your buffoon.

However, our country was never in any danger of being taken over by him in some fascist fantasy the democrats imagine in their wet dreams.

This has been patiently and exhaustively explained multiple times. It’s on you for not reading the information presented.

Is the buffoon Trump capable of even getting capable people to follow him in a serious coup?

That “buffoon” got himself elected to President. Think about what you’re saying right now about both him and the people that voted for him.

West Point has some real bright minds that go there and I doubt any would follow Trump in a coup.

He literally has retired Generals running on qanon, Big Lie, and MAGAtard platforms. Why are you lying?

Even his secret service driver had the sense to take him away from the alleged coup area and prevented him from doing anything to further the supposed conspiracy.

I want you to read that sentence, and then keep re-reading it until the light comes on.

- Doc

[Vēritās]

Well whatever happens in the midterms, one thing is for certain, and that is the Republicans underperformed from expectations. For months we've been hearing about a Red Wave and they've been acting like they're ignorant of historical trends, pretending that Republicans winning back congressional seats would be a referendum against Biden. And yet, this is quite literally the first time since WWII that a sitting President didn't lose a crap load of Congressional seats. Many of the so called done deals turned out to be either wrong or the victories were by the slightest of margins.

I was expecting to wake up this morning in a whole new world, with the Republicans controlling everything after a bloodbath. As it is, it appears the Democrats might retain control of the Senate while their losses in the House were kept to a minimum. They'll likely lose the House, but who ever thought they had a realistic chance of keeping it given the seats that were up for reelection?

Given that this midterm result bucks historical trends in a huge way, what does this say about today's GOP?

[Vēritās]

Maybe, but I see this as an exaggeration of the mainstream media. The Jan 6 "coup" was pretty tepid, in my mind, in comparison to real coups that we ran in central america and in the rest of the world.

That’s not the flex you think it is.

The military was absent in this clown show …

That was by design by your own guys.

… and no one had the kind of arms necessary to carry out a coup.

They literally took the Capitol, and had it not been for a few brave souls the insurrectionists would’ve reached legislators.

Trump bitched and is still bitching over 2020.

Yeah, and all that bitching has caused an extraordinary amount of lies, scheming, and mistrust in our system propagated mostly by agents on the Right. We have insane delusional retards posting on this very forum pushing these lies thanks to your buffoon.

However, our country was never in any danger of being taken over by him in some fascist fantasy the democrats imagine in their wet dreams.

This has been patiently and exhaustively explained multiple times. It’s on you for not reading the information presented.

Is the buffoon Trump capable of even getting capable people to follow him in a serious coup?

That “buffoon” got himself elected to the President. Think about what you’re saying right now about both him and the people that voted for him.

West Point has some real bright minds that go there and I doubt any would follow Trump in a coup.

He literally has retired Generals running on qanon, Big Lie, and MAGAtard platforms. Why are you lying?

Even his secret service driver had the sense to take him away from the alleged coup area and prevented him from doing anything to further the supposed conspiracy.

I want you to read that sentence, and then keep re-reading it until the light comes on.

- Doc

He doesn't seem to understand that if there were just a few more loyalists in the right positions willing to act on the coup, he would have succeeded. If Marjorie Taylor-Greene were his VP instead of Pence, things would have ended differently. If Steve Bannon and General Flynn had not been indicted and were in charge of everything, things would have ended differently. The coup is still in motion, as one wise man recently pointed out. Election deniers are running and getting elected all across the country. These are people who have pledged absolute loyalty to Trump and would be glad to overturn their state's election results using whatever means necessary to get him back in office.

I'll never understand Trump voters who think they get a pass simply because they call him an idiot after the fact.

[Kishkumen]

Well whatever happens in the midterms, one thing is for certain, and that is the Republicans underperformed from expectations. For months we've been hearing about a Red Wave and they've been acting like they're ignorant of historical trends, pretending that Republicans winning back congressional seats would be a referendum against Biden. And yet, this is quite literally the first time since WWII that a sitting President didn't lose a crap load of Congressional seats. Many of the so called done deals turned out to be either wrong or the victories were by the slightest of margins.

I was expecting to wake up this morning in a whole new world, with the Republicans controlling everything after a bloodbath. As it is, it appears the Democrats might retain control of the Senate while their losses in the House were kept to a minimum. They'll likely lose the House, but who ever thought they had a realistic chance of keeping it given the seats that were up for reelection?

Given that this midterm result bucks historical trends in a huge way, what does this say about today's GOP?

In my mind it shows just how poorly Trumpism performs in national politics. He has handed the GOP a series of big disappointments. I think we are witnessing the rise of DeSantis, which may be sufficient in terms of a pivot from Trumpism to slide into somewhat more normal GOP politics. DeSantis is a scumbag, but he is neither stupid nor a lunatic.

[Kishkumen]

He doesn't seem to understand that if there were just a few more loyalists in the right positions willing to act on the coup, he would have succeeded. If Marjorie Taylor Greene were his VP instead of Pence, things would have ended differently. If Steve Bannon and General Flynn had not been indicted and were in charge of everything, things would have ended differently. The coup is still in motion, as one wise man recently pointed out. Election deniers are running and getting elected all across the country. These are people who have pledged absolute loyalty to Trump and would be glad to overturn their state's election results using whatever means necessary to get him back in office.

Exactly. It is the long game to get cultists and scammers in the right positions to pull the trigger for authoritarianism at the right time.

[Dr Exiled]

He doesn't seem to understand that if there were just a few more loyalists in the right positions willing to act on the coup, he would have succeeded. If Marjorie Taylor Greene were his VP instead of Pence, things would have ended differently. If Steve Bannon and General Flynn had not been indicted and were in charge of everything, things would have ended differently. The coup is still in motion, as one wise man recently pointed out. Election deniers are running and getting elected all across the country. These are people who have pledged absolute loyalty to Trump and would be glad to overturn their state's election results using whatever means necessary to get him back in office.

Exactly. It is the long game to get cultists and scammers in the right positions to pull the trigger for authoritarianism at the right time.

So where's the proof of this long game and that its going on? Perhaps turn off the mainstream media? Fox, MSNBC, CNN and the like get ratings from spreading fear, the type of fear in this thread.

However, you can rest easy. Looks like there isn't going to be a red hoard invading the capital, voting against america.

[Kishkumen]

So where's the proof of this long game and that its going on? Perhaps turn off the mainstream media? Fox, MSNBC, CNN and the like get ratings from spreading fear, the type of fear in this thread.

Maybe you have been asleep for the long process of gerrymandering states to the point where Republican minorities can dominate. Is that not a long game? What would you call it if not that? What of the bid to take over local politics, down to the level of school boards, by pumping money into local politics. My hometown's candidates for mayor and town council were approached by the GOP. One group of candidates took the money, $80K for a tiny town in Northern Virginia. Their opponents who refused the money were able to raise $13K from small donations. Nice thing to be able to report today is that the GOP crew had their asses handed to them. The mayoral candidate who took the money is a right-wing Christian who trains young people in the arts of campaigning in the interests of an extreme Christian agenda.

This kind of thing is happening in a lot of places. I don't think it is some kind of fluke. Roe v. Wade was overturned thanks to the dogged perseverance of extremist religious zealots backing a lunatic for president. Trump's come and go. Rightwing extremism is a persistent problem, and one of our major parties has courted these people for over four decades. There's your long game.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Exactly. It is the long game to get cultists and scammers in the right positions to pull the trigger for authoritarianism at the right time.

So where's the proof of this long game and that its going on? Perhaps turn off the mainstream media? Fox, MSNBC, CNN and the like get ratings from spreading fear, the type of fear in this thread.

However, you can rest easy. Looks like there isn't going to be a red hoard invading the capital, voting against america.

The proof is right in front of your nose, Dr. Exiled. Again, Veritas and others have exhaustively posted about this, but you’ve chosen to either be belligerently ignorant by not reading words, or you’re just being deceitful and pretending to not know about GOP behaviors.

- Doc

[Kishkumen]

The proof is right in front of your nose, Dr. Exiled. Again, Veritas and others have exhaustively posted about this, but you’ve chose to either be belligerently ignorant by not reading words,or you’re just being deceitful and pretending to not know about their behaviors.

- Doc

Maybe it's a good thing that I haven't followed this very closely.

[Dr Exiled]

So where's the proof of this long game and that its going on? Perhaps turn off the mainstream media? Fox, MSNBC, CNN and the like get ratings from spreading fear, the type of fear in this thread.

Maybe you have been asleep for the long process of gerrymandering states to the point where Republican minorities can dominate. Is that not a long game? What would you call it if not that? What of the bid to take over local politics, down to the level of school boards, by pumping money into local politics. My hometown's candidates for mayor and town council were approached by the GOP. One group of candidates took the money, $80K for a tiny town in Northern Virginia. Their opponents who refused the money were able to raise $13K from small donations. Nice thing to be able to report today is that the GOP crew had their asses handed to them. The mayoral candidate who took the money is a right-wing Christian who trains young people in the arts of campaigning in the interests of an extreme Christian agenda.

This kind of thing is happening in a lot of places. I don't think it is some kind of fluke. Roe v. Wade was overturned thanks to the dogged perseverance of extremist religious zealots backing a lunatic for president. Trump's come and go. Rightwing extremism is a persistent problem, and one of our major parties has courted these people for over four decades. There's your long game.

Political parties have been doing this since the beginning of the republic. Both republicans and democrats want their people in as many offices as possible. It's nothing new. So, what's different other than you are afraid the Republicans will be successful? I personally doubt the republicans will get as far as you believe. Just take a look at the election yesterday. And really, all the Democrats have to do is wean themselves off of wall street money and go back to how they were in the 70's and 80's, antiwar, anti-monopoly and pro-worker. Sell something other than republicans are fascists. Dismantle the pro-monopoly laws and favorable tax schemes, perhaps actually do medicare for all, and the majority of independents will flock back and stop the red hoard you so fear.