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doubtingthomas wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:10 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:03 am
Why would they reject you?

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That's according to many articles I read, and a lot of educated women ghosted me on dating apps in the past.

"Most women are unwilling to settle for men who are less educated, less intelligent, and less professionally successful than they are. "
https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26747

I have tried to have a conversation with educated women on dating apps, but they always lose interest.
Why do they lose interest in you, do you think?
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Single women over 28 tend to be more educated than single men. The majority of single women my age are very educated.

I would love to date a very educated woman, but as Chap said, "The question is, however, whether she would enjoy it too. "

Do you think I should spend time messaging women on dating apps who are very likely to reject me?
So in other words, it's a foil, just as I thought. You aren't really interested in an "educated woman" your own age, but in a rhetorical strategy to show the people on this board that they are wrong.

The majority of women your age are not "very educated", they certainly aren't so educated that they are out of your reach, and Chap's response doesn't seal your fate -- you're looking for people arguing with you to say that your personal quirks are going to be a problem, therefore you shouldn't try a conventional relationship.
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Allow me to try this from a different angle.

Suppose this were a trades forum for a sheet metal workers union. Suppose somebody comes on the forum and says they can't get a job as a sheet metal worker. People throw out some pointers, the person comes back and says, "I tried all that and it doesn't work." Further, the person keeps saying things like, "I read an article that says there aren't a lot of jobs in sheet metal right now"
"I read another article that says people with my family background aren't typically sheet metal workers"
"I read an article that says unions are making it difficult for potential new sheet metal hires"
"I want to be a sheet metal worker more than anything, but according to MetalBOxGuy67, I'm annoying and so why would anybody want to hire me? If that's true, then why shouldn't I just go rob a bank right now or go on welfare?"
"I sent my application to 10 companies the other day and didn't get a response, tell me one good reason why I should keep trying?"
"Sheet metal unions are a scam!"
"The only way sheet metal companies can ever get anybody is if they get totally desperate and lower their standards, they totally suck."
"TinSnip27 says with my attitude no one will hire me. See? I told you guys I can't do this!"

Look at the sheet metal workers out there -- nothin special about them. Look at the typical married person or person in a relationship -- nothin special.

Somebody might get the idea that the person making these statements doesn't really want to be a sheet metal worker, because somebody who does just goes out there and will eventually make it happen.

People who really want to be in relationships end up in relationships, end of story.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 am
Why do they lose interest in you, do you think?
It is anyone's guess. I talk to them like a normal person.

Maybe it has to do with this?

"Most women are unwilling to settle for men who are less educated, less intelligent, and less professionally successful than they are."

https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26747
"I have the type of (REAL) job where I can choose how to spend my time," says Marcus. :roll:
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:29 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 am
Why do they lose interest in you, do you think?
It is anyone's guess. I talk to them like a normal person.

Maybe it has to do with this?

"Most women are unwilling to settle for men who are less educated, less intelligent, and less professionally successful than they are."

https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26747
So, you have no idea why you’re being rejected? Like, it’s a total and complete mystery to you as to why they’re not interested in you?

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Gadianton wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 am
So in other words, it's a foil, just as I thought. You aren't really interested in an "educated woman" your own age, but in a rhetorical strategy to show the people on this board that they are wrong.
I am interested, seriously, who wouldn't want to date an attractive and educated woman?
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Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 am
The majority of women your age are not "very educated", they certainly aren't so educated that they are out of your reach, and Chap's response doesn't seal your fate
Only time will tell. I'll let you know when I start using the dating apps again. I used to spend a lot of money on dating apps.
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Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:48 am
Somebody might get the idea that the person making these statements doesn't really want to be a sheet metal worker, because somebody who does just goes out there and will eventually make it happen.

People who really want to be in relationships end up in relationships, end of story.
Maybe. Do you think the gender relationship gap is a problem? There's a 21.5% relationship gap between men and women ages 26-33.

https://datepsychology.com/how-have-rel ... ten-years/
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:33 am
So, you have no idea why you’re being rejected? Like, it’s a total and complete mystery to you as to why they’re not interested in you?

- Doc
It's called ghosting. Do you know what that means?

I am not some jerk or weirdo asking strangers for sex, I try to have a normal conversation with women.

The vast majority of dating app users are men, women have a lot of options, so it makes sense for women to be very picky on the dating apps. 80% of guys on dating apps are unattractive to women.

https://www.yourtango.com/2016285828/wo ... razy-study
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:40 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:33 am
So, you have no idea why you’re being rejected? Like, it’s a total and complete mystery to you as to why they’re not interested in you?

- Doc
It's called ghosting. Do you know what that means?

I am not some jerk or weirdo asking strangers for sex, I try to have a normal conversation with women.

The vast majority of dating app users are men, women have a lot of options, so it makes sense for women to be very picky on the dating apps. 80% of guys on dating apps are unattractive to women.

https://www.yourtango.com/2016285828/wo ... razy-study
Why don’t you post some of your conversations here so we can analyze it, and give you constructive feedback?

Also, what hobbies do you regularly enjoy and are passionate about?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:44 am
Why don’t you post some of your conversations here so we can analyze it, and give you constructive feedback?

Also, what hobbies do you regularly enjoy and are passionate about?

- Doc
I am currently not using the dating apps, but sure, I can share some next week (or the following week). I wouldn't mind taking a screenshot and sharing my past conversations. I'll probably share like five.
"I have the type of (REAL) job where I can choose how to spend my time," says Marcus. :roll:
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