What exactly Is Wrong with Polygamy anyway?

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huckelberry wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:41 pm
"Child marriage, particularly 12 years old for mens, 9 years old for girls because they are entering teenages.
Do you think Mary could've been 12 when she was pregnant?

huckelberry wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:41 pm
I am not liking this sort of arrangement but it has been the way the world has worked for a long time.
from widapedia entry arranged marriage:
God never spoke against child marriage in the Bible.
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:42 am
huckelberry wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:41 pm
"Child marriage, particularly 12 years old for mens, 9 years old for girls because they are entering teenages.
Do you think Mary could've been 12 when she was pregnant?

huckelberry wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:41 pm
I am not liking this sort of arrangement but it has been the way the world has worked for a long time.
from widapedia entry arranged marriage:
God never spoke against child marriage in the Bible.
Thomas, I do not know how old Mary was when she was pregnant.

I think that the rules in the Bible are generally statements made by the people to express what thought was best.Some of those rules are better than others. They are all part of the functioning of societies now ancient which are different than ours.
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huckelberry wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:12 am
I think that the rules in the Bible are generally statements made by the people to express what thought was best.Some of those rules are better than others. They are all part of the functioning of societies now ancient which are different than ours.
I suppose my theological answer to that would be 21st century biblical believers are mistaken about their current views on child brides. God operates outside the bounds of time and is perfect. If prophets claimed God commanded them to take child brides, they’re either lying or confused. And if they weren’t lying or confused then God finds it acceptable and the current crop of believers are wrong.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:25 pm
huckelberry wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:12 am
I think that the rules in the Bible are generally statements made by the people to express what thought was best.Some of those rules are better than others. They are all part of the functioning of societies now ancient which are different than ours.
I suppose my theological answer to that would be 21st century biblical believers are mistaken about their current views on child brides. God operates outside the bounds of time and is perfect. If prophets claimed God commanded them to take child brides, they’re either lying or confused. And if they weren’t lying or confused then God finds it acceptable and the current crop of believers are wrong.

- Doc
Doc, The moral quality of an action depends upon the situation it is part of. Example would be the action of sending a bullet through a persons head.If done to the enemy in a wartime battle that is a different moral situation than if done to somebody met in a bar who makes a rude comment. To observe that God is unchanging hardly stops the complex variety of human situations and choices.

If I am not considering FLDS I do not recall prophets claiming to be commanded to take child brides.
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huckelberry wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:28 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:25 pm
I suppose my theological answer to that would be 21st century biblical believers are mistaken about their current views on child brides. God operates outside the bounds of time and is perfect. If prophets claimed God commanded them to take child brides, they’re either lying or confused. And if they weren’t lying or confused then God finds it acceptable and the current crop of believers are wrong.

- Doc
Doc, The moral quality of an action depends upon the situation it is part of. Example would be the action of sending a bullet through a persons head.If done to the enemy in a wartime battle that is a different moral situation than if done to somebody met in a bar who makes a rude comment. To observe that God is unchanging hardly stops the complex variety of human situations and choices.

If I am not considering FLDS I do not recall prophets claiming to be commanded to take child brides.
In that case, do not study the Bible. I wouldn’t want you to experience dissonance.

- Doc
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huckelberry wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:12 am
Thomas, I do not know how old Mary was when she was pregnant.
It is possible that she was 12?
"I have the type of (REAL) job where I can choose how to spend my time," says Marcus. :roll:
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:59 pm

The vast majority of men will never be in polyamorous relationship.
According to gender studies researcher Louise Perry, men are more likely to be in non-monogamous relationships, which makes polyamory effectively polyandry-like in the vast majority of cases. Polyamory is rarely polyamory.

However, according to the same researcher, men are way more likely to be players and have multiple girlfriends at the same time. A small, but significant percentage of men are in polygamous relationships.
"I have the type of (REAL) job where I can choose how to spend my time," says Marcus. :roll:
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Sun Dec 25, 2022 4:13 am
Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:59 pm
The vast majority of men will never be in polyamorous relationship.
According to gender studies researcher Louise Perry, men are more likely to be in non-monogamous relationships, which makes polyamory effectively polyandry-like in the vast majority of cases. Polyamory is rarely polyamory.

However, according to the same researcher, men are way more likely to be players and have multiple girlfriends at the same time. A small, but significant percentage of men are in polygamous relationships.
You realize that none of that overturns or nullifies what Res Ipsa said, right?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sun Dec 25, 2022 5:46 am
You realize that none of that overturns or nullifies what Res Ipsa said, right?
Right, that's because polyamory is rarely polyamory.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:50 pm
huckelberry wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:28 pm
Doc, The moral quality of an action depends upon the situation it is part of. Example would be the action of sending a bullet through a persons head.If done to the enemy in a wartime battle that is a different moral situation than if done to somebody met in a bar who makes a rude comment. To observe that God is unchanging hardly stops the complex variety of human situations and choices.

If I am not considering FLDS I do not recall prophets claiming to be commanded to take child brides.
In that case, do not study the Bible. I wouldn’t want you to experience dissonance.

- Doc
Doc, bumping my memory I find you are perhaps thinking of the Baal of Peor story. You might read that as commanding child brides. Close enough anyway that you have a point. It is an ugly problematic story that I will not support. I do not believe the Bible is without error.
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