Republicans in Disarray
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Republicans in Disarray
The first vote for Speaker of the House has concluded, with no one receiving a majority of votes. The person who received the most votes was Hakim Jeffries (D). Nineteen (R)s voted for someone other than Kevin McCarthy. He needs to get 15 of those votes to become speaker.
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ETA: Gym Jordan received 6 votes. Biggs received 10.
Second round nominations:
(1) McCarthy (R), nominated by Gym Jordan.
He outlines the R agenda:
1) Pass "show" bills that can never become law.
2) Shut the government down unless the House Republican budget is passed
3) Witch hunts Investigations
Nice.
(2) Hakim Jeffries (D)
(3) Gym Jordan (R), nominated by Matt Gaetz. Gaetz uses Jordan's own fiery speech to argue that he should be elected speaker.
We're not through the C's in the roll call and Jordan has 5, which I think is enough to send us to round 3. The MAGAs Freedom Caucsusoids are playing it tough.
Results are not substantively different from the first round: Jeffries got the most votes. Still 19 Relief Society who voted against McCarthy, but all 19 voted for Jordan.
Third verse, same as first?
Free buttered popcorn available in the lobby.
ETA: Gym Jordan received 6 votes. Biggs received 10.
Second round nominations:
(1) McCarthy (R), nominated by Gym Jordan.
He outlines the R agenda:
1) Pass "show" bills that can never become law.
2) Shut the government down unless the House Republican budget is passed
3) Witch hunts Investigations
Nice.
(2) Hakim Jeffries (D)
(3) Gym Jordan (R), nominated by Matt Gaetz. Gaetz uses Jordan's own fiery speech to argue that he should be elected speaker.
We're not through the C's in the roll call and Jordan has 5, which I think is enough to send us to round 3. The MAGAs Freedom Caucsusoids are playing it tough.
Results are not substantively different from the first round: Jeffries got the most votes. Still 19 Relief Society who voted against McCarthy, but all 19 voted for Jordan.
Third verse, same as first?
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Re: Republicans in Disarray
I saw on Twitter that Republicans had all the metal detectors taken down. Wonder how many of our legislators are armed now.
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Re: Republicans in Disarray
At least one always was. I think it was Bohbert. She simply used a different door.
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Re: Republicans in Disarray
ROUND THREE -- FIGHT!!
(1) McCarthy, nominated by Steve Scalise.
(2) Jeffries
(3) Jim Jordan, nominated by Chip Roy (R-Texas)
We need change! Drain the swamp! Fix America! (outrage over the bill that avoided shutting down the government).
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Once again, Jordon has enough votes to keep McCarthy from winning. Gonna need more popcorn.
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Re: Republicans in Disarray
Can someone explain what the issue is for the MAGA crowd? The three items outlined by Res, pass "show" bills, shut down the government, and sham investigations for Fox viewers seem right up their alley. McCarthy seems like a slimy, indecent man -- I don't see what the problem is.
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Re: Republicans in Disarray
Nope - not about McCarthy - sorry - but about Ukraine:Washington Examiner wrote:... it takes ‘weeks to capture a house’ ...
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Re: Republicans in Disarray
At last!! Some movement on the third try: Jordan picked up a vote and McCarthy lost one.
ETA: The Rep that switched from McCarthy to Jordon was Byron Donalds (R-Florida).
FOURTH ROUND -- FIGHT!!
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The irony is that it takes a majority of votes to adjourn, so Democrat votes would be needed to adjourn. And McCarthy keeps saying he does not want to adjourn. So I guess the beatings will continue until the total improves.
ETA: The Rep that switched from McCarthy to Jordon was Byron Donalds (R-Florida).
FOURTH ROUND -- FIGHT!!
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The irony is that it takes a majority of votes to adjourn, so Democrat votes would be needed to adjourn. And McCarthy keeps saying he does not want to adjourn. So I guess the beatings will continue until the total improves.
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Re: Republicans in Disarray
It's not really the MAGA crowd: Marjorie Taylor-Greene, Jordan and others support McCarthy. As I understand the issue, McCarthy reigned in some of the proposed antics of the extremists over the last two years. He alienated just enough of them to create the current situation. The last straw may have been his cooperation to pass the funding bill last month -- the real hardcore types wanted to shut the government down over Christmas to get what they wanted in the bill.Gadianton wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:37 pmCan someone explain what the issue is for the MAGA crowd? The three items outlined by Res, pass "show" bills, shut down the government, and sham investigations for Fox viewers seem right up their alley. McCarthy seems like a slimy, indecent man -- I don't see what the problem is.
It's a rare chance for Relief Society to experience what it's been like for the Ds in the Senate. When it's close, a small number of renegades can gum up the whole works (looking at you, Manchin...

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Re: Republicans in Disarray
I understand one of the major sticking points in the proposed House rules affecting support for McCarthy is over how many members are required to trigger a motion to vacate against the Speaker. The MAGA crowd want it to be one. McCarthy came down to five. Moderate Republicans are nervous that is too low. Most recently the threshold required a majority of the House.
Get the popcorn indeed.
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Re: Republicans in Disarray
Imma just be honest here. I have no idea why there’s a split, and why it’s a bad (?) thing if they can’t settle on a Speaker? I’ve never seen anything like this clown show so I just don’t get it, and I don’t even know if this is a bad thing for Americans? I’m genuinely confused by all of this.
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