DCP’s Mormon scholars testify: abandoned?
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Maybe DCP didn't want to draw attention to this:
https://exmormonscholarstestify.org/testimonies.html
If you search for "Mormon scholars testify" the second result is Ex-Mormon Scholars Testify.
https://exmormonscholarstestify.org/testimonies.html
If you search for "Mormon scholars testify" the second result is Ex-Mormon Scholars Testify.
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I predicted that this effort would fail. It is enormously gratifying to have been proven right. What “MST” ultimately proves is how few Mormon scholars are willing to sign in with this crap.
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He really isn't a good missionary for the Church.
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I think it depends on what you want out of the LDS church. There are a lot of people, particularly in Utah, who see the church as a means of being a part of their community and making friends. In that regard, I think LDS Mormonism has some positive aspects such as the welfare program and employment services. It also has some worthwhile teachings about the importance of putting family first and about service. But these positive aspects were more than outweighed for me by its authoritarian control mechanisms, immoral and false doctrines, boring services, and meat market singles wards.
I think Mormonism is still workable for people who don't take it too seriously and don't really care to know what the doctrines are. That type of attitude toward religion is fundamentally unsatisfying to me, but I can see that many people have it.
Ultimately, I think Mormonism is going to continue moving away from its weirder doctrines as it has been doing for the last 100 or so years. The Mormon population in the US is simply too well-traveled and educated for the church to try to withdraw into willfully ignorant fundamentalism, even though that is what a minority of members definitely wants.
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I hope you’re right. The leaders seem to be trying to steer the church away from fundamentalism but they have to be careful not to alienate too many of them and split the church further.Alphus and Omegus wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:21 pmI think it depends on what you want out of the LDS church. There are a lot of people, particularly in Utah, who see the church as a means of being a part of their community and making friends. In that regard, I think LDS Mormonism has some positive aspects such as the welfare program and employment services. It also has some worthwhile teachings about the importance of putting family first and about service. But these positive aspects were more than outweighed for me by its authoritarian control mechanisms, immoral and false doctrines, boring services, and meat market singles wards.
I think Mormonism is still workable for people who don't take it too seriously and don't really care to know what the doctrines are. That type of attitude toward religion is fundamentally unsatisfying to me, but I can see that many people have it.
Ultimately, I think Mormonism is going to continue moving away from its weirder doctrines as it has been doing for the last 100 or so years. The Mormon population in the US is simply too well-traveled and educated for the church to try to withdraw into willfully ignorant fundamentalism, even though that is what a minority of members definitely wants.
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My favorite snippet from a Mormon Scholars Testify testimony is from Vern G Swanson of the Springville Museum of Art.

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/tes ... as%20true!Dr Swanson wrote:Being passionate about the visual fine arts, when the missionaries showed me a Book of Mormon, all I had to do was look at its illustrations by Arnold Friberg and I instantly knew the book was true!
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Morley wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:33 pmMy favorite snippet from a Mormon Scholars Testify testimony is from Vern G Swanson of the Springville Museum of Art.
https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/tes ... as%20true!Dr Swanson wrote:Being passionate about the visual fine arts, when the missionaries showed me a Book of Mormon, all I had to do was look at its illustrations by Arnold Friberg and I instantly knew the book was true!
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Omg this just made my day!
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Has it failed? Of has it accomplished what it set out to do? There are a finite number of Mormon scholars, aren’t there?