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[doubtingthomas]

You converted an article's point about young people to a statement about young men

Wasn't "help young men" the main point of the article? In any case, who cares. The fact is that young men are lonelier than young women. Can you at least quote that portion? You keep avoiding that at all cost.

I'll talk about lonely people when the levels of loneliness of young men and young women are about the same.

So yeah, women have more leeway culturally to talk about men than men have for women. That what centuries of subservience gets you.

Young, single women out-earn young, single men. Young, single women are much better off than young, single men.

Do centuries of subservience mean we have to ignore the fact that young men are a lot lonelier than young women?

You don't have to care about young men, but shouldn't we be worried about the increasing violence in the US? It's not a coincidence that there's a growing mental health crisis in the US.

[Some Schmo]

So yeah, women have more leeway culturally to talk about men than men have for women. That what centuries of subservience gets you.

Young, single women out-earn young, single men. Young, single women are much better off than young, single men.

Do centuries of subservience mean we have to ignore the fact that young men are a lot lonelier than young women?

You don't have to care about young men, but shouldn't we be worried about the increasing violence in the US? It's not a coincidence that there's a growing mental health crisis in the US.

I was commenting only on the double standard you mentioned.

Today's youth have a lot of issues to contend with. I'm not interested in focusing on this one. I'm more interested in the issues facing young women, because my daughter is one.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

I'm fascinated by this go-to strategy of calling something a double standard as though that's a bad thing.

If a black person makes a comment about a white person that a white person couldn't make about a black person, is that a double standard? Well, yeah. The question is, why does that double standard exist? Maybe it has something to do with the power differential going back centuries. Black people don't have a history of oppressing white people in this country, so black people getting a little dig in helps to balance that differential. It's nowhere near enough, but it's something.

If you are in a historically advantaged demographic (white, male, heterosexual), chances are you're going to get criticism from all sides these days, and frankly, you deserve it.

So yeah, women have more leeway culturally to talk about men than men have for women. That what centuries of subservience gets you.

There was a time I would’ve pushed back against this kind of hot take, but after spending a couple of decades watching guys like Xanax, bing bong, Atlantic milk, droopy dawg, lee universe, DCP, kiwi what’s-his-nuts, gee, hamblin, then scaling up to the the Supreme Court, prior President, the gop, the Utah legislature, Utah judiciary, right-wing media, and religio-political lockdown on my state … welp. There you are.

He’s not wrong.

A LOT of white men and women are running this country into the toilet (Norfolk Southern is just the latest crap show of how they get away with their crimes). There’s no way out of this as the top 1-5% tighten their grip over resources and industries; they’ll continue to keep people fighting each other over nonsense, and common white people are carrying their water for them. It’s disastrous, and there’s absolutely nothing anyone can say or do that’ll move the needle for them.

Not sure what the solution is, frankly.

- Doc

[doubtingthomas]

I'm more interested in the issues facing young women, because my daughter is one.

Sir, as I said, "You don't have to care about young men".

But reducing male loneliness will improve mental health rates in the US. You don't want a bunch of men with Psychiatric Disorders anywhere near your daughter.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4225959/

He’s not wrong.

Who?

[doubtingthomas]

I really like the phrase, "It's the economy, stupid!".

However, we should all be concerned about the increasing violence in the US.

According to a paper, "Loneliness can lead to various psychiatric disorders"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4225959/

Wouldn't reducing loneliness reduce the increasing mental health crisis in the US? And wouldn't improving mental health in the US reduce violence?

No need to create multiple threads on the same topic, you already linked this exact study in this thread so discuss it here.-Xen

[doubtingthomas]

I'm more interested in the issues facing young women, because my daughter is one.

If you truly care about your daughter, you should watch this

"The Most Dangerous Man In The World"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OJy75vpTzA

[Marcus]

I really like the phrase, "It's the economy, stupid!".

However, we should all be concerned about the increasing violence in the US.

According to a paper, "Loneliness can lead to various psychiatric disorders"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4225959/

Wouldn't reducing loneliness reduce the increasing mental health crisis in the US? And wouldn't improving mental health in the US reduce violence?

No need to create multiple threads on the same topic, you already linked this exact study in this thread so discuss it here.-Xen

As usual your topics follow the incel-manosphere-pua-Mgtow path. Your conclusion that male “loneliness” is a problem others must fix is a staple of the incel world. Using loneliness to justify violence is just the latest rendition.

…the dangerous pervasiveness of the incel movement …illuminate something dangerous in the way some men perceive their relationships to sex and women. Elliot Rodger – whom Dryden (2021) terms the ‘poster boy’ of the involuntary celibacy movement – and those who subscribe its ideology evidently regard sex as something that is owed to them and which when withheld, justifies violence through toxic anti-female rhetoric…

At their least threatening, the incel community speak about themselves as victims… At their worst, incels promote male supremacy, denigrating the principles of feminism and endorsing gender-based, sexual violence….

Young, lonely men are vulnerable to radicalisation by a group that, as Christine Emba (2019) discusses, ‘has developed elaborate, and elaborately misogynistic, theories to blame others for their plight’ …

The incel community’s growth indicates that sex continues to be invoked as the index of power and success or, conversely, of powerlessness, Emba (2019) argues. The rise of the movement represents an insidious threat, particularly to female agency. Women risk being punished and becoming the revenge victims of those who subscribe to this dangerously misguided ideology. In his infamous document, Rodger stated that ‘[it] would have prevented the Day of Retribution, if one girl had just given me one chance’ (n.d.). Rejecting a man could lead to an act of violence in a nightmarish butterfly effect propelled by deluded philosophies involving ideas of victimhood and retribution.

https://intranet.royalholloway.ac.uk/ec ... rorism.pdf

The part in blue refers to you.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

https://youtu.be/IdTMDpizis8

[doubtingthomas]

Using loneliness to justify violence is just the latest rendition.

Who is trying to justify violence?

The part in blue refers to you.

You are crazy! I am simply sharing the research.

According to a paper, "Loneliness can lead to various psychiatric disorders"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4225959/

Wouldn't reducing loneliness reduce violence in the US?

Your conclusion that male “loneliness” is a problem others must fix is a staple of the incel world.

I don't follow the incel world. You sound like a Republican! You are poor because it's your fault, don't blame the system.

[Marcus]

Wouldn't reducing loneliness reduce violence in the US?

What do you think would reduce loneliness?