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[Doctor CamNC4Me]

4 1/2 days since DT said he’d make an appt for therapy.

[doubtingthomas]

The red pill allows guys to dismiss anyone who disagrees with them as "brain dead" or "brainwashed." Only they are enlightened and know the "truth."

I don't claim to have the "truth". As I said before, I could be wrong about everything.

I don't automatically reject other points of view.

[doubtingthomas]

4 1/2 days since DT said he’d make an appt for therapy.

Just answer the goddamn questions Doc. Answer them and I'll shut up.

[doubtingthomas]

The questions.

That's the keystone of red pilling: becoming convinced that your unhappiness is women's fault and that it's women's responsibility to change their behavior

Did you watch the full 10 min CNN video? And what do you make of "Women Say 80% of Men Are “Below Average”
https://medium.com/hello-love/women-say ... b0b8af2606

I don't blame women for my unhappiness, but my life would be a bit easier if schools teach young people to have realistic expectations. If 80% of men are below average, that would be wrong on so many levels, I hope that study is incorrect.

And what do you make of the fact that media companies are afraid to talk about these issues?

Please answer my questions, I won't ask any more. I promise, make me shut up.

Rather than feel some compassion for Petito, who was the victim of a brutal murder, you resent that young women don't choose "nice guys" like you.

The story of Petito should be used to teach young women that looks, status, and charisma aren't the most important things a man can have.

[Marcus]

...And what do you make of "Women Say 80% of Men Are “Below Average”
https://medium.com/hello-love/women-say ... b0b8af2606

I don't blame women for my unhappiness, but my life would be a bit easier if schools teach young people to have realistic expectations. If 80% of men are below average, that would be wrong on so many levels, I hope that study is incorrect....

did you read the article you linked to above? Did you notice it was an opinion piece, and it was a commentary on some very serious issues they had with the very nonscientific and extremely inaccurate piece you call a "study", and that the conclusion "Below Average" is in quotation marks? You know, like people do when they are questioning something, or have an issue with that conclusion. Go read your link. It does not support your point at all.

[Doctor Steuss]

Please answer my questions, I won't ask any more. I promise, make me shut up.

4 1/2 days since DT said he’d make an appt for therapy.

Just answer the goddamn questions Doc. Answer them and I'll shut up.

Your behavior isn't the responsibility of others, and others aren't responsible for your behavior.

When (note, I'm saying "when," instead of "if," as I'm hoping you'll start engaging in the positive self-talk also that will make it happen) you start seeing a therapist, this might be one of the goals you could set with them.

Going in with goals is important, in my opinion. Especially when those goals are specific.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

4 1/2 days since DT said he’d make an appt for therapy.

Just answer the goddamn questions Doc. Answer them and I'll shut up.

[Res Ipsa]

Please answer my questions, I won't ask any more. I promise, make me shut up.

Just answer the goddamn questions Doc. Answer them and I'll shut up.

Your behavior isn't the responsibility of others, and others aren't responsible for your behavior.

When (note, I'm saying "when," instead of "if," as I'm hoping you'll start engaging in the positive self-talk also that will make it happen) you start seeing a therapist, this might be one of the goals you could set with them.

Going in with goals is important, in my opinion. Especially when those goals are specific.

Responsibility and control are so easy for our brains to screw up. And it’s really hard to see in yourself. I’ve found one rubric that I think is helpful: If you are using your own conduct to try and make a deal so that someone will change their conduct, you should stop and make sure that you aren’t trying to shift the responsibility for your behavior on to someone else. A very bland example was Atlantic Mike‘s “I’ll stop being a dick if you’ll talk to me in private and extend the hand of friendship. That’s AM trying to make others responsible for his own conduct. AM’s choice to act like a Dick was his and his alone. His choice — no one else’s.

DT, you’ll note that throughout this extended conversation we’ve been having, never once have I conditioned my attention to help on anything from you. I’m offering you advice because I choose to. And although I certainly appreciate that you appreciate what I’m trying to do, I don’t expect it. When you say, as you did to Doc, I’ll change my behavior if you do X, you are trying to put responsibility for your own behavior onto Doc. Instead of you taking the responsibility for deciding whether or not to post, you are trying to make it Doc’s decision. That’s an unhealthy mistake we make all the time, and it takes time and effort to learn how to put responsibility where it belongs and then to do it.

As Yoda never said: “Do. Or Do Not. Leave me out of it.”

[Chap]

I don't blame women for my unhappiness, but my life would be a bit easier if schools teach young people to have realistic expectations.

Maybe you could make a start with yourself?

[Gadianton]

If guys like motorcycles and sports cars when they are in their twenties, but like SUVs in their thirties, does that mean they should have liked SUVs in their twenties instead and schools should teach them shop for SUVs?

If you eventually find your soulmate, do you want to hear her thank her teachers for helping her lower her standards so as to be able to accept you?

And then the whole, Gabby Petito got what was coming to her for liking a Chad instead of a Black Piller. That's the most embarrassing claim. And to tell the story in schools so girls are scared into liking unattractive guys?

I didn't see the study to back up that claim by the way: Are chads dangerous? Are they really more dangerous than self-hating basement dwellers?

You don't think we could cherry pick crimes against women committed by ugly dudes?

My guess is that better looking people on both sides on the isle are better at relationships on average. That isn't because they are inherently better people, but because they are used to having relationships from a young age. There's this whole layer of difficulty being around a person all the time; knowing how to carry oneself, what to say, how to do things together; even wanting to be around another person frequently and it feels natural, and so on, and that all takes practice. Music is probably the same, someone who learned piano at age 4 has a big advantage over someone learning to play in adulthood.

So ironically, if you would have spent your childhood years pursuing friendships and/or relationships with less attractive girls, you would being doing better now, because you'd know the ins-and-outs of interacting with a girl.

I also have to wonder: lets say you find that girl, get married, and have a daughter, what advice will you give her? "You need to date that weirdo next door otherwise, he might turn to a life of crime!"