“Peter Pan” is Unmasked as Mike Parker

[Marcus]

just to clarify, this is daniel C. Peterson, advertising an entry on Mike Parker's blog. Both peterson and parker have perpetuated the story that parker's blog is written by richard nygren, an imaginary black LDS apologist.

You must be talking about Mike Parker who currently teaches an adult LDS religion class in the Hurricane, Utah area who posts anonymous vitriolic hit pieces against fellow Latter-day Saints? Yikes.

- Doc

yikes is right.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

DCP lying?!? Whaaaaat???

All these guys know each other and work together. Mike Parker is a FAIR and Interpreter contributor, for crying out loud.

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/blog/author/mparker

Note the Interpreter link returns a 404 error.

- Doc

[Philo Sofee]

I visited Peter Pan's blog...silly stuff... never heard of Mike Parker. But in my opinion another spoiled UTAH member who never learned how to defend the Church he belongs to by embracing a fake geography theory created in 1917 by Louis Edward Hills, a member of the First Quorum of Seventy, of the RLDS Church; died in 1925.

During the stay-at-home, plandemic, I found the entire history on line, including his three books and four maps, scanned by Google and two organizations in and near Independence, Missouri. I purchased in 2021 two of his 1924 books via Amazon, first and second editions, includes the "Mormon's Map" coined by John L. Sorenson. Created and copyrighted by L.E. Hills, who died in 1925. Copyrights have expired, his books and maps are in the Public Domain. Anyone can resell them and they have. But the Meso intellectual claim Joseph Smith embraced the theory because of some John Lloyd Stephens books, a historical disconnect between 1844 and 1917. But no one ever accused them of being intelligent.

Ever hear of the Hill Cumorah Expedition Team? Look it up. Online site and Facebook. RLDS (now CofC and Restoration Branch). As well BOMF.org.

Plagiarized by F.A.R.M.S., Sorenson, Welch, Magleby, Gardner, Peterson and those associated with their organizations. Completely fake Book of Mormon geography, plagiarized, never gave credit to its creator: Louis Edward Hills, of Independence, Missouri.

This... This right here deserved a video from the BYP! Thanks man

[Fence Sitter]

But the Meso intellectual claim Joseph Smith embraced the theory because of some John Lloyd Stephens books, a historical disconnect between 1844 and 1917. But no one ever accused them of being intelligent.

I am sure you are aware that Smith owned both Incidents of Travel in Central America, Chiapas, and the Yucatan and Incidents of Travel in Yucatan by John L. Stephans, and that while he was editor he published extracts from the former in T&S in 1842 as well as endorsing the content of the books as corresponding with and supporting the Book of Mormon.

I believe the Book of Mormon is a work of fiction so I don't really care one way or the other, but there is good evidence that early Mormons saw Stephens and Catherwood's books as evidence of the Book of Mormon.

[Res Ipsa]

DCP just gave himself away...

But in the blog entry posted before that comment...

So? Peterson was contacted a few months ago by the actual blogger, but 2 hours ago says he has "never so much as heard of him"?

Sure, DCP. Sure.

Intriguing. I would add a few pieces of data:

In April 2021, Peterson wrote:

In May 2021, Peterson wrote:
In September 2021, Peterson wrote:

What are we to conclude here?

That the answer to the question I asked is "no." Also, to correct my previous post, it wasn't Peterson who introduced Nygren into the conversation: it was Smoot.

In addition, there is also nothing contradictory about the two quotes Marcus posted. In the first, he says he has learned the identity of Peter Pan and that it was someone he knows. In the next, he says he's never heard of Nygren. THat's all perfectly consistent. In fact, by saying that he's never heard of Nygren, he confirms that Nygren is not Peter Pan.

So, taking the quotes in chronological order, I think we're supposed to conclude that Peterson originally didn't originally know who Peter Pan was, but suspected that it was someone he knew. That later, Peter Pan revealed his in real life identity to Peterson. That Peterson revealed that he knew Peter Pan's identity and that it was someone that he knew. That Peterson didn't reveal Peter Pan's identity to Smoot, even though Smoot had been attacked here as being Peter Pan. That Smoot reported that a third party had identified Peter Pan as Nygren. That Peterson said he'd never heard of Nygren and that he briefly looked for Nygren and couldn't find him. Because he had already said that Peter Pan was someone he knew and that he'd never heard of Nygren, his statements about Nygren are the opposite of "perpetuating" the falsehood that Nygren is Peter Pan. and that Peterson has the magical ability to strip otherwise thoughtful and reasonable people of their critical reading and thinking skills.

Look, the false narrative created here that Smoot is Peter Pan should have resulted in some humility and introspection. Instead, the Peterson obsessed just went full speed ahead and created another false narrative. Neither incident is this board's proudest moment.

[Marcus]

DCP lying?!? Whaaaaat???

All these guys know each other and work together. Mike Parker is a FAIR and Interpreter contributor, for crying out loud.

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/blog/author/mparker

Note the Interpreter link returns a 404 error.

- Doc

Peterson's known, by his own admission, who the nnl blog author is for more than a year, but he let the rumors persist that the author was nygren. that's on him.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

DCP lying?!? Whaaaaat???

All these guys know each other and work together. Mike Parker is a FAIR and Interpreter contributor, for crying out loud.

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/blog/author/mparker

Note the Interpreter link returns a 404 error.

- Doc

Peterson's known, by his own admission, who the nnl blog author is for more than a year, but he let the rumors persist that the author was nygren. that's on him.

For real. March 6th, 2023, from his blog:

There is virtual certainty over at the Peterson Obsession Board that Stephen Smoot, going by the pseudonym of “Peter Pan,” is the author and proprietor of the invaluable Neville-Neville Land blog. But I know for a fact that he is not. Up until about two years ago (or thereabouts) I myself was unaware of the identity of the blog’s proprietor, although I suspected that it was someone in my circle of acquaintances. At that point, “Peter Pan” identified Panself to me and, sure enough, it was somebody that I knew.

July 25th, 2022, in ref to Peter Pan’s ‘Nygren’ identity:

I've never so much as heard of him. I briefly looked for him online, but found nothing. I'd like to think that he exists, though.

My bet is that he's one of my multiple personalities, just as you are.

But he did know. He’s known since April’ish 2021, and, as he himself said, it was somebody he knew. It was a fellow FAIR and Interpreter contributor.

July 9th, 2022, was when Boylan made his assertion about Nygren being Peter Pan. Linked from Tom’s post here:

viewtopic.php?p=2792573#p2792573

- Doc

[TwoCumorahFraud]

I visited Peter Pan's blog...silly stuff... never heard of Mike Parker. But in my opinion another spoiled UTAH member who never learned how to defend the Church he belongs to by embracing a fake geography theory created in 1917 by Louis Edward Hills, a member of the First Quorum of Seventy, of the RLDS Church; died in 1925.

During the stay-at-home, plandemic, I found the entire history on line, including his three books and four maps, scanned by Google and two organizations in and near Independence, Missouri. I purchased in 2021 two of his 1924 books via Amazon, first and second editions, includes the "Mormon's Map" coined by John L. Sorenson. Created and copyrighted by L.E. Hills, who died in 1925. Copyrights have expired, his books and maps are in the Public Domain. Anyone can resell them and they have. But the Meso intellectual claim Joseph Smith embraced the theory because of some John Lloyd Stephens books, a historical disconnect between 1844 and 1917. But no one ever accused them of being intelligent.

Ever hear of the Hill Cumorah Expedition Team? Look it up. Online site and Facebook. RLDS (now CofC and Restoration Branch). As well BOMF.org.

Plagiarized by F.A.R.M.S., Sorenson, Welch, Magleby, Gardner, Peterson and those associated with their organizations. Completely fake Book of Mormon geography, plagiarized, never gave credit to its creator: Louis Edward Hills, of Independence, Missouri.

This... This right here deserved a video from the BYP! Thanks man.

My second post on here... I assume that's a compliment. thanks.. . not sure "what video from the BYP" means.

But I can assure you, I know the entire RLDS History of from 1844 to 1925 and how that Church's view of Book of Mormon geography led L.E. Hills to create his Two Cumorah theory restricted to Mesoamerica. Of course, he used "Central America." Hills didn't come up the the 2C idea. He clearly states it, in his books. An older RLDS member did.

[TwoCumorahFraud]

But the Meso intellectual claim Joseph Smith embraced the theory because of some John Lloyd Stephens books, a historical disconnect between 1844 and 1917. But no one ever accused them of being intelligent.

I am sure you are aware that Smith owned both Incidents of Travel in Central America, Chiapas, and the Yucatan and Incidents of Travel in Yucatan by John L. Stephans, and that while he was editor he published extracts from the former in T&S in 1842 as well as endorsing the content of the books as corresponding with and supporting the Book of Mormon.

I believe the Book of Mormon is a work of fiction so I don't really care one way or the other, but there is good evidence that early Mormons saw Stephens and Catherwood's books as evidence of the Book of Mormon.

Everyone then was fascinated then with John Lloyd Stephens' books. Even Edgar Allan Poe:

https://mayadecipherment.com/2013/09/06 ... -stephens/

If you think Joseph Smith needed a travel book to understand the location of The Book of Mormon, then you have evidence that it's false.
The Prophet Joseph Smith, Seer and Translator, no more needed Stephens' books to discover Book of Mormon geography, then President Nelson needs a subscription to the National Geographic Magazine, to discover the lost tribes of Israel.

The Stephen's article in the T&S is under suspect of who wrote it, only signed "Ed." But Joseph Smith resigned as editor before then. But that's the claim by the LDS Meso scholars to embrace L.E. Hills' ideas, because Hills used Stephens' images on his maps.

I could post images here off all four, which I have in my possesion - but here's L.E. Hills 1919 book with the map in tinyurl format:

https://tinyurl.com/Hills1919Map The Stone Portrait of Copan is from Stephens' books.

[Res Ipsa]

I've never so much as heard of him. I briefly looked for him online, but found nothing. I'd like to think that he exists, though.

My bet is that he's one of my multiple personalities, just as you are.

But he did know. He’s known since April’ish 2021, and, as he himself said, it was somebody he knew. It was a fellow FAIR and Interpreter contributor.

July 9th, 2022, was when Boylan made his assertion about Nygren being Peter Pan. Linked from Tom’s post here:

viewtopic.php?p=2792573#p2792573

- Doc

What you're saying here makes no sense. As Marcus pointed out, in the prior entry at Sic Et Non, Peterson stated that the author of the blog had informed him of his actual identity and that, as he had guessed earlier, the author is someone he knew.

When Smoot stated that the in real life of the author was Richard Nygren, Peterson replied that he'd never so much as heard of him. The "him" that was being discussed was Richard Nygren. Peterson never says or implies that he doesn't know who the blog author is and never says or implies that Nygren is the blog author.

Peterson says the author of the blog is someone he knew and that he'd never heard of Richard Nygren. You're simply ignoring context and giving each isolated comment the worst possible spin. In context, when Peterson said he'd never heard of Nygren, he confirmed that Nygren wasn't the blog author.