“Peter Pan” is Unmasked as Mike Parker

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Dr Moore wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:54 pm
Where did Parker claim to never have called Neville names?
If he never did, he’s not that bright. He called his blog after Neville.

Of course, I find it hard to believe Parker is actually Peter Pan.
Seriously, Hurricane, Utah has access to the Internet?
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Dr Moore wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:54 pm
Where did Parker claim to never have called Neville names?
I have my differences with Jonathan Neville, but I have never called him names as he did by referring to Daniel Peterson—twelve times, no less!—as “Slander Dan.”
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2023 ... ville.html
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TwoCumorahFraud wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:16 pm
Dr Moore wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:54 pm
Where did Parker claim to never have called Neville names?
If he never did, he’s not that bright. He called his blog after Neville.

Of course, I find it hard to believe Parker is actually Peter Pan.
Seriously, Hurricane, Utah has access to the Internet?
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2023 ... swers.html

He admitted it.
I’ve been mulling over this post for some time now. My identity was recently discovered and revealed, so this seemed like a good opportunity to introduce my (real) self and respond to some questions about this blog. These questions aren’t “frequently asked,” but I suppose one could still consider this to be a FAQ.

Who are you?

My real name is Mike Parker. I’m an active, believing Latter-day Saint who has a profound belief in the truth of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ.

Why have you been using the pseudonym “Peter Pan”?

The Peter Pan alias started as humorous idea when I decided to launch this blog in early 2019. Since I’d already decided on the name of the blog, the Peter Pan moniker seemed more clever and appropriate than using my own name.

I was open to revealing my real name at some point, but eventually this blog began to draw the attention of some unstable people in the Heartland movement, so the pseudonym eventually evolved from a in-joke to something that I used to provide a measure of protection for myself and my family.

What do you have against Jonathan Neville?

Nothing, honestly. This isn’t a personal issue for me. I’ve never met him, but I’m sure that he’s a loving husband and a swell guy.

Then why do you maintain a blog called “Neville-Neville Land”?

The point of this blog is to examine Jonathan Neville’s claims, not to go after him as an individual.

The name of the blog is, of course, a pun. It’s meant to be humorous, not malicious. It’s no worse than Neville’s use of puns in the names of his own blogs, and it’s certainly better than the name-calling and demonization Neville himself has engaged in.

Did someone ask you to create this blog?

No, it was my idea from the start and everything I’ve written has been my own views and opinions. No one has ever asked or told me what to write about.

I hate to disappoint my detractors in the Heartland and anti-Mormon communities, but there is no grand conspiracy at work here. It’s just one guy and a keyboard.

Do you get paid to run this blog?

I haven’t received so much as a nickel from anyone for starting and maintaining the Neville-Neville Land blog. I don’t even use advertising to monetize this site.

You seem kind of obsessed with Jonathan Neville and Heartlanders. Can’t you just let people believe what they want to believe?

People are absolutely free to believe what they want to believe. Not all beliefs are true, though, and some beliefs are based on flawed reasoning, faulty methodology, or biased interpretation. To one extent or another we’re all prone to making such errors, but the Heartland movement is particularly afflicted by them.

Jonathan Neville has set forth specific propositions that are at odds with the historical record, at odds with what has been taught by leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and at odds with careful analysis of the data. He’s free to believe whatever he wants to believe, but when he publicly advocates for his beliefs, then he opens himself up to review, criticism, and rebuttal.

I believe that his teachings will destroy faith and confidence in The Church of Jesus Christ and its divinely ordained leaders. As I wrote above, I’m sure that Jonathan Neville is a nice person, but his words are spiritually toxic. The Neville-Neville Land blog exists to expose and examine his teachings and the erroneous statements of others in the Heartland movement.

Also, based on specific things that Neville has said and done, I question his sense of good judgment in some matters.

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

If you’re referring to a European swallow, then that would be 11 to 16 meters per second.

—Peter Pan (Mike Parker)
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Marcus wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:20 pm
Dr Moore wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:54 pm
Where did Parker claim to never have called Neville names?
I have my differences with Jonathan Neville, but I have never called him names as he did by referring to Daniel Peterson—twelve times, no less!—as “Slander Dan.”
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2023 ... ville.html
Thanks.
Mike's lying to himself and others.
Making up nicknames is not the same thing as "calling people names."
Mike called Neville plenty of names.

https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2020 ... thing.html
"Neville is a conspiracy theorist"

https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... brain.html
"Neville is an extremist"

https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2020 ... nders.html
"Neville... and the the rest of the hucksters"

https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... hurch.html
"Neville is a fundamentalist critic"

https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2021 ... about.html
"Neville is a sad, little man"

https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... ormon.html
"Neville is a fanatical devotee"

I see Mike and someone named "Russell" interacted with some frequency at the blog. I assume that's Kiwi57, with whom Mike shares a lot in terms of online personality. Indignant, condescending, arrogant, totally lacking self awareness.
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Yes, Parker has written some doozies.
...You know what I hate, Brother Neville? Lies. And the liars who tell them...
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... h-lie.html
Unless...

1) it's necessary because, as Parker explained in why he let the Nygren identification stand, the truth would be 'confusing.'

And the mopologist all-time favorite:

2) nuh-huh! Besides, YOU did it FIRST.
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MormonDiscussionInc wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:01 pm
Thank you for the evidence that Mike had no problem denying other claims of who he was when that was a white person. Only when it was a Black man does Parker see no ability to deny the claim he is that person. Weird.... But that will be helpful.
It actually gets worse. Not only did Parker fail to deny Boylan's statement, he actually said that he found it "amusing" that people were mistaking him for Nygren:
Peter Pan/Mike Parker wrote:It’s been a source of much amusement for me the last few days to watch “Doctor Scratch” and his cohorts flail about aimlessly trying to determine my true identity and coming nowhere near the mark.
This isn't the remark of someone who's in any way concerned about letting people mistakenly think that he's Black and from Alabama. He thinks it's *funny*, in fact!
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And right on cue, the DARVO kicks in. Mike claims victimhood status:
This blog has nothing to do with ex-Mormons or their claims, so I’m a little baffled at becoming their latest target.
:roll:

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:55 pm
And right on cue, the DARVO kicks in. Mike claims victimhood status:
This blog has nothing to do with ex-Mormons or their claims, so I’m a little baffled at becoming their latest target.
:roll:

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wow.
"my racism has nothing to do with ex-Mormons or their claims, so I'm a little baffled that they would object to it."
And the comment that prompted his victim claim:
Eric the Half-beeApril 4, 2023 at 9:11 AM
I'm sorry you have to put up with this kind of thing. Thank you for what you're doing.

I was impressed that no less than four discourses last weekend addressed the topic of contention, and it reminded me that I need to ensure that my advocating with passion doesn't devolve into name-calling and vitriol. The line dividing those is razor-thin. Thanks for staying on the right side of it.

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:49 pm
MormonDiscussionInc wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:01 pm
Thank you for the evidence that Mike had no problem denying other claims of who he was when that was a white person. Only when it was a Black man does Parker see no ability to deny the claim he is that person. Weird.... But that will be helpful.
It actually gets worse. Not only did Parker fail to deny Boylan's statement, he actually said that he found it "amusing" that people were mistaking him for Nygren:
Peter Pan/Mike Parker wrote:It’s been a source of much amusement for me the last few days to watch “Doctor Scratch” and his cohorts flail about aimlessly trying to determine my true identity and coming nowhere near the mark.
This isn't the remark of someone who's in any way concerned about letting people mistakenly think that he's Black and from Alabama. He thinks it's *funny*, in fact!
Dr. Scratch, I don't think that this post reflects what was going on at the time. The post is from July 2022. At the time, the folks here were in a frenzy over accusing Steve Smoot of being Peter Pan. I don't recall anyone here ever mistaking Peter Pan for the fictional Nygren.

How many months passed after learning and discussing Boylan's Nygren claim before it occurred to anyone at this site that it was racist? The issue of Peter Pan's identity was discussed over a period of months without anyone expressing belief that Nygren was the actual author of the blog. Apparently, no one here noticed this ever so serious example of racism at the Boylan made his claim or for months afterword.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:55 pm
And right on cue, the DARVO kicks in. Mike claims victimhood status:
This blog has nothing to do with ex-Mormons or their claims, so I’m a little baffled at becoming their latest target.
:roll:

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Crying victim? Yes. DARVO, not really, as "exmormons" aren't the real "victims."
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