“Peter Pan” is Unmasked as Mike Parker

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

I already posted that, literally just days before, Parker had posted he was not the apologist Peterson, nor was he the apologist Smoot, and for good measure he openly stated he wasn't the apologist Krauss. This post had links to at least three other entries with open admissions regarding who he was NOT.

So, why would it now be confusing to deny he was Nygren? What is different? in my opinion, this is an after the fact attempt to justify actions he knows were inappropriate.

This is an excellent observation. He had no problem setting the record straight with regard to those identities, but he held onto the avatar of a black man. I think he did so because he thought it provided him some kind of cover, OR he was good with Boylan using a black man avatar as a jab at the Heartlanders … which makes sense in context to those links to … Lamanites … on the border … here to build … New Jerusalem? Wtf is going on?

It seems to me Mike “Peter Pan” Parker is banking on his fellow Morms won’t look further into his lying and deceiving because he provided them a nonsense excuse that doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. As long as he said something then it’s considered closed? Nah. I don’t think so. A mopology isn’t good enough right now.

- Doc

[Doctor Scratch]

Yeah, Marcus, I think you have a good point. Why did Boylan (and by extension, Parker) think that "Richard Nygren" would "tweak" the Heartlanders? Especially given the links that Parker posted (i.e., about "illegal immigrants")? Plus, Parker himself said that he used a pseudonym because he was worried that some of the Heartlanders were "unhinged." So, the whole Nygren thing winds up looking like Parker was happy to have some poor Black guy take the brunt of whatever these alleged "unhinged" Heartlanders might do. Or maybe the idea was that, if he pretended to be Black (or simply didn't correct Boylan), that the Heartlanders would be less likely to attack him?

As for the whole intention: yes, why did Boylan do what he did? Why did he assume that claiming "Peter Pan" was actually a Black man named Richard Nygren would "tweak" the Heartlanders? Was his assumption that lying about "Peter Pan'"s race would actually make the Heartlanders hate him *more*? Was that the idea?

[Res Ipsa]

I’m certainly open to a better term if you can think of one within context of Boylan’s choice to use a black man’s avatar to tease the Heartlanders (their description, not mine).

- Doc

That brings up the point that for me defines the 'misappropriation' to use that as a temporary place marker. Look at Parker's explanation:

At the time of the interview, Robert Boylan knew my real identity. I asked him about the “Richard Nygren” comment, and he told me that he made it up as “a little joke to tweak Heartlanders” because of some racist remarks that had published on the FIRM Foundation’s website. “Richard Nygren” is a fictional character.

So... Boylan was hoping to "tweak Heartlanders" as payback for what he considered to be "racist remarks."

The underlined word 'racist' hyperlinks to this:

Are Lamanites at our Southern Border?
By Rian Nelson -March 22, 2021
https://bookofmormonevidence.org/are-la ... rn-border/

And the underlined word 'remarks' links here, to section 9 of this link:

A Heartlanders Response to the Salt Lake Tribune
By Rian Nelson -April 2, 20221032
https://bookofmormonevidence.org/a-hear ... in_context

And this is Section 9:

My entire quote in context
“Question from a Customer!

Does the border immigration crisis have possible connections to the gathering of the Lamanites so they can participate in the construction of the NEW JERUSALEM?

Prepaid Preacher?
An LDS man on you tube called the prepaid preacher, quoted these following scriptures, claiming that maybe these illegal immigrants crossing the southern border today into our country are the house of Jacob as lions (Illegal Immigrants) going into the midst of sheep (Current Americans)
...Rod Meldrum March 22, 2021

The first link starts the same way:

Question from a Customer!
Does the border immigration crisis have possible connections to the gathering of the Lamanites so they can participate in the construction of the NEW JERUSALEM?

Prepaid Preacher?
An LDS man on you tube called the prepaid preacher, quoted these following scriptures, claiming that maybe these illegal immigrants crossing the southern border today into our country are the house of Jacob as lions (Illegal Immigrants) going into the midst of sheep (Current Americans)...

These are lengthy links, so does anyone have any insight into how pretending Peter Pan is an "one of only [a] few African-American apologists in the Church at the moment [who] lives in Birmingham, Alabama” constitutes a joke that tweaks Heartlanders, in response to these posts?

It doesn't seem credible.

Then there is Parker's further explanation, this time of his own behavior:

...On July 19, 2022, I posted a link to the Boylan/Kraus interview. At that time, my real identity was not known publicly, so any attempt on my part to address Boylan’s “Richard Nygren” comment would have been untrue (if I confirmed it) or confusing (if I denied it). Instead, I simply wrote that the interview “goes into more detail about this blog than I’m comfortable with.”

I already posted that, literally just days before, Parker had posted he was not the apologist Peterson, nor was he the apologist Smoot, and for good measure he openly stated he wasn't the apologist Krauss. This post had links to at least three other entries with open admissions regarding who he was NOT.

So, why would it now be confusing to deny he was Nygren? What is different? in my opinion, this is an after the fact attempt to justify actions he knows were inappropriate.

The author claims that Hispanic folks from Mexico and Latin America are not Lamanites because they are Asians and uses this claim to justify his anti-immigrant politics. I believe he’s the same fellow that posted the anti-Semitic remarks that caused FIRM to have to find a new web host. Those posts are not available to be linked. Racism is a claim that the LGTers have made against the Heartlanders.

I have not gone looking for any racism by Heartlanders against black folks.

I agree with you that Parker’s explanation is weak sauce.

[Philo Sofee]

Good Lord. Robert Boylan is more vicious than I thought. From his exchange with Hazleton (linked above):

Hazelton is misrepresenting our exchange. The guy is, as one bookstore owner in Utah would put it, a human mattress stain.

Obviously, Russell M. Nelson would be exceedingly pleased Boylan is following his counsel to be nicer and quit coming up with pithy little name calling techniques just this last Sunday in General Conference. It's so cool to have a prophet to lead and guide us in these latter days that Mormons (yer welcome to gain a point Satan) can ignore all they want.

[drumdude]

Thanks, Eric. This blog has nothing to do with ex-Mormons or their claims, so I’m a little baffled at becoming their latest target.

He’s baffled guys.

[TwoCumorahFraud]

I served a mission in Latin America. To condemn others with racism to promote a make-believe Two Cumorah theory, is really odd:

There's no truth to it.. read the online book. The author is completely honest. He states his sources: Ethnology reports on Central America and the Mayas from the Smithsonian:

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1924bookM2C

Oh well. Ha ha ha!

[Dr Moore]

Thanks, Eric. This blog has nothing to do with ex-Mormons or their claims, so I’m a little baffled at becoming their latest target.

He’s baffled guys.

LOL. A little baffled. Parker must be neutral on Putin's genocide in Ukraine.

[Gadianton]

I've given their fictitious black apologist a little bit of thought. I'm initially perplexed. Why?

As we know with apologists, "inside jokes" rule the day. Hamblin's acrostic is the paradigm example. They're laughing with each other constantly over inside jokes leveled during public discourse that "go right over the heads" of critics either involved directly or looking on. One can only imagine the private laughter of DCP and others knowing from the very outset that the reference was fictitious, and believing it would in some way or another, befuddle the critics.

A little contemplation reveals the most likely reason is to say: the real Peter Pan is somebody you would never expect. But they don't think the Church is racist, and FAIR has had at least one website depicting black members as thoroughly devoted to the cause. And so what they probably mean is that a black person is unlikely to be smart enough, or intellectual enough to pursue an arcane matter like Book of Mormon geography. Only the whitest "anglophiles" have either the interest or capacity for such a thing. It's a high-brow affair of those who trade in all things Oxford. Of course they don't think the critics will believe it, but feeling overconfident in the secret, it's like a bee in the bonnet to infuriate the opposition, and a high-five for the allies in the locker room.

And it follows the pattern of humor among white supremacists that overreaches. "Nygryn" sounds like "negro" or "Nigeria" and so what a knee-slapper, it even sounds black. And then it turns out the etymology shows it's "Swedish, German, Norwegian and English" and that 95% with the last name are white. In other words, whoever coined the name did so by homonym analogy. We know the apologists are horribly ignorant when it comes to the field of linguistics, but they pat themselves on the back as standard bearers of this subject. It's no wonder that the coiner didn't hurry and look it up before posting it or that co-conspirators didn't look it up and then pre-emptively scramble for damage control. The field burned beneath their notice.

[drumdude]

As far as I am aware, Mike Parker has not been invited by Dan to be on Interpreter’s radio show since he was exposed. This is noteworthy because Mike was a regular on the show previously.

Dan decided not to comment on Mike, but rather whinge about the heartlanders finding a welcoming home here.

I observe with interest that, in addition to Mr. Neville’s happy willingness to participate on the podcast of a vocally derisive critic of the claims of the Restoration, “TwoCumorahFraud” is now a participant on what I sometimes call the “Peterson Obsession Board.” Some here will recall “TwoCumorahFraud,” a recent commenter here, for his vitriolic hostility to me, Jack Welch, the late John Sorenson, the late William Hamblin, and others, denouncing us for having supposedly plagiarized the evil limited Mesoamerican model for Book of Mormon geography from a long-dead member of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints named L. E. Hills and, thus, turned our backs on the modern apostles and prophets. The Obsession Board is a largely atheistic place, fiercely critical of the Church and its beliefs and — since its residents overwhelmingly dismiss the Book of Mormon as a fraud — not remotely inclined to “TwoCumorahFraud’s” aggressive “Heartlander” geographical views. But a shared disdain for “apologists” seems to provide congenial common ground for everybody there, at least for the moment.

A note on Item 4, above: I’ve repeatedly said here and elsewhere that, although (like all of my academic associates, so far as I’m aware) I’m unpersuaded by “Heartlander” models of Book of Mormon geography, I’m perfectly happy to fellowship with members of the Church who hold those views. But, curiously, I’m not perfectly happy when a fellow Latter-day Saint calls me “Slander Dan,” alleges that I reject the prophets, and compares me and my friends to Lucifer and his host of devils. This is what I genuinely object to in the behavior of a few persons who are associated with the “Heartlander” movement: The apparent willingness to denounce other active and committed Latter-day Saints for failing to share their opinions on the precise GPS coordinates of the Jaredite city of Lib. While it’s interesting and even, as an academic subject, not unimportant, the geography of the Book of Mormon is, at most, a topic of secondary or tertiary significance. It isn’t worth breaking fellowship with the Saints. It isn’t worth sowing discord in the Kingdom

[Res Ipsa]

I served a mission in Latin America. To condemn others with racism to promote a make-believe Two Cumorah theory, is really odd:

There's no truth to it.. read the online book. The author is completely honest. He states his sources: Ethnology reports on Central America and the Mayas from the Smithsonian:

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1924bookM2C

Oh well. Ha ha ha!

The same ethnology reports that say native Americans are Asian in descent as well, right?