“Peter Pan” is Unmasked as Mike Parker

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Well, it's clear Peter and Hook liked to quote Smoot's writings quite a bit in 2019 and 2020, and then abruptly stopped. Run a Google search on "site:nevillenevilleland.com Smoot" and you'll get the following.

One might conclude the blog doubled as a sort of egoic marketing channel for Smoot, in its early days.

https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... eview.html
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... tland.html
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... le-he.html
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... -with.html
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... oroni.html
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... ndard.html
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... egory.html
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2020 ... -saga.html
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2020 ... n-yet.html
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2020 ... -word.html
https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2020 ... es-it.html

Captain Hook also appears to have stopped posting at some point in 2020.
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MormonDiscussionInc wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:51 pm
And Captain Hook is? Smoot and how strongly do we know that and how do we know that?
It’s just an analysis of past behavior (which is the most accurate prediction of current and future behavior) and keyword analysis. The only other Mopologist that has dedicated a commensurate amount of time, energy, study, and posting to match that of Mike “Peter Pan” Parker is Stephen Smoot. Mike “Peter Pan” Parker has made it clear he’s in a collaboration with a fellow obsessive, so the obvious person to look at is Smoot. Take a look at his blog when you search by ‘Neville’, ‘Meldrum’, ‘Heartland’, ‘Cumorah’, and other keywords associated with the Heartland movement. It comes up with a LOT of material

So, at that point all you have to do is go to the NNL hate blog, search for posts by ‘Captain Hook’, pick out keywords, and then run a search on the Ploni Almoni blog. As the number of hits rise the odds of Smoot not being Hook decreases significantly. For example:

viewtopic.php?p=2829816#p2829816

viewtopic.php?p=2829825#p2829825

viewtopic.php?p=2829874#p2829874

From the last link above:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:00 pm
More Hook/Smoot hits - “conspirators”, “efficacy/efficacious”, “particulars”, liberal use of “virtually”, “formula/formulaic”, “mislead/misleading”, “misinform/misinformation”, liberal use of “quasi”

My good readers, I haven’t even gotten half way through Captain Hooks posts on NNL ref a keyword comparison to Smoot’s posts on his blog Ploni Almoni. Literally maybe a quarter to a third of a way through.

The jury is absolutely in: Stephen Smoot is Captain Hook. 💯

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I spent a significant amount of time working with the FBI and CIA in a collaborative capacity conducting link analyses both here and overseas. In Iraq we’d use link analysis to build network associations, and then plug information obtained through various sources to ID targets - one source was Open Source intelligence which is just a way to say ‘unclassified Internet crap’. One of these tools was keyword identification that we’d see as recurrent in their communications, or unique to individuals. This helped narrow down resource allocation, and ended up being very useful since people get into behavioral and communication patterns.

Stephen Smoot is Captain Hook.

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MormonDiscussionInc wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:09 pm
Image

Our working situation board (The final will have some evidence attached

UPDATE:
I have added to the slide show all the repercussions of Mike's recent attempt to reconcile the fiasco which honestly simply added significantly to our ability to show the facts and his behaviors and explanations of them have a deep disconnect. He actually gave us a second smoking gun.

We are working to create the biggest splash we can as we want this to be in front of not only the audience of Mormonism Live but trying to figure out how to put it in front of the heartlanders and meso america location folks too. And of course we hope that it will make its way around social media and various discussion boards and Reddit of course in several locations.

I am hopeful these guys after seeing this post won't be able to resist trying to cover their ass further as it benefits us every step of the way. Hey Mike and Boylan and Kraus (Smoot and Peterson to a lesser extent), trust my honesty. The best thing you could do is come completely clean before our show is published. But they will always assume covering up is a better decision than owning their actions and motivations. Honestly I feel bad for Kraus most. He is young and doesn't seem to sense that his being silent could leave this information hurting him professionally later on. Who wants to be connected, even in a small way, to the creation of a fake black person to cover up the games of white men? It is really bad optics. He had the least to gain and now maybe has the most to lose.

The plan is for the show to be recorded early next week behind the scenes. Then to release it with short notice being given prior in dozens of locations. Likely on a day or two or three after the recording. When it is published as a video it will go out as a live broadcast. The hosts of the video will be present in the chats and will participate by answering any questions. I will notify this board first because you have been so helpful and I would appreciate any effort to share where you think is fitting.

For ten years apologists have played games in my world and every believing member should have the information necessary to discern that these guys have never had believers best interest at heart. It was always about obfuscation and Plausible Deniability (Nailed it didn't I?) and protecting the good name of the Church (Even though it doesn't have a good name). People deserve enough information to make new and informed choices and to know which side is far more honest with them.
What do you plan to say about the Richard Nygren profiles (middle left and middle right images)?
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Dr Moore wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:38 pm
I propose we stop calling it NevilleNevilleLand and begin to use its full and proper name, the "Jonathan Neville Obsession Board."

Or, JNOB, if you prefer.

Any opposed?
No opposition here. I used the NOB acronym here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=157233&p=2827897&hilit=Nob#p2827897
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Tom wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:33 pm
Dr Moore wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:38 pm
I propose we stop calling it NevilleNevilleLand and begin to use its full and proper name, the "Jonathan Neville Obsession Board."

Or, JNOB, if you prefer.

Any opposed?
No opposition here. I used the NOB acronym here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=157233&p=2827897&hilit=Nob#p2827897
/ht, good call
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:12 am
Marcus wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:46 am
"a book of fiction."

People are behaving horribly over nothing more than this. What an utterly bizarre world many of us were born into.
Amen!
The great irony of this is that the Mopologists were relentless in attacking the "new" Maxwell Institute over the notion that things like Book of Mormon historicity shouldn't matter. In fact, the Mopologists actually said that the "new" MI folks were "apostates," and essentially were doing the same things that the Heartlanders are now doing to *them.* The butcher's bill has come around, I guess?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:24 pm
MormonDiscussionInc wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:51 pm
And Captain Hook is? Smoot and how strongly do we know that and how do we know that?
It’s just an analysis of past behavior (which is the most accurate prediction of current and future behavior) and keyword analysis. The only other Mopologist that has dedicated a commensurate amount of time, energy, study, and posting to match that of Mike “Peter Pan” Parker is Stephen Smoot. Mike “Peter Pan” Parker has made it clear he’s in a collaboration with a fellow obsessive, so the obvious person to look at is Smoot. Take a look at his blog when you search by ‘Neville’, ‘Meldrum’, ‘Heartland’, ‘Cumorah’, and other keywords associated with the Heartland movement. It comes up with a LOT of material

So, at that point all you have to do is go to the NNL hate blog, search for posts by ‘Captain Hook’, pick out keywords, and then run a search on the Ploni Almoni blog. As the number of hits rise the odds of Smoot not being Hook decreases significantly. For example:

viewtopic.php?p=2829816#p2829816

viewtopic.php?p=2829825#p2829825

viewtopic.php?p=2829874#p2829874

From the last link above:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:00 pm
More Hook/Smoot hits - “conspirators”, “efficacy/efficacious”, “particulars”, liberal use of “virtually”, “formula/formulaic”, “mislead/misleading”, “misinform/misinformation”, liberal use of “quasi”

My good readers, I haven’t even gotten half way through Captain Hooks posts on NNL ref a keyword comparison to Smoot’s posts on his blog Ploni Almoni. Literally maybe a quarter to a third of a way through.

The jury is absolutely in: Stephen Smoot is Captain Hook. 💯

- Doc
I spent a significant amount of time working with the FBI and CIA in a collaborative capacity conducting link analyses both here and overseas. In Iraq we’d use link analysis to build network associations, and then plug information obtained through various sources to ID targets - one source was Open Source intelligence which is just a way to say ‘unclassified Internet crap’. One of these tools was keyword identification that we’d see as recurrent in their communications, or unique to individuals. This helped narrow down resource allocation, and ended up being very useful since people get into behavioral and communication patterns.

Stephen Smoot is Captain Hook.

- Doc
Given all the controversy over word print analysis, I have a few questions. How did you select the "keywords"? What steps did you put in place to avoid selection bias (i.e., selecting terms from the Captain Hook blog that you knew or suspected that Smoot used)? Did you run a frequency analysis on a body of posts of both Smoot and Captain Hook? Did you run your analysis on any other possible candidates for "Captain Hook?"

We have all remarked on the nasty, attacking style of discourse employed by Mopolgists. Picking words out of Captain Hook's entries that are consistent with that style is guaranteed to generate "hits" with any of the Mopologists. And no analysis of "hits" should be relied upon without looking at the misses.

What you've described is a recipe for confirmation bias. I would have thought that the "Peter Pan is Smoot" debacle would have caused some introspection. God help us if this represents how military intelligence is conducted.
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Tom wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:30 pm
MormonDiscussionInc wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:09 pm
Image

Our working situation board (The final will have some evidence attached

UPDATE:
I have added to the slide show all the repercussions of Mike's recent attempt to reconcile the fiasco which honestly simply added significantly to our ability to show the facts and his behaviors and explanations of them have a deep disconnect. He actually gave us a second smoking gun.

We are working to create the biggest splash we can as we want this to be in front of not only the audience of Mormonism Live but trying to figure out how to put it in front of the heartlanders and meso america location folks too. And of course we hope that it will make its way around social media and various discussion boards and Reddit of course in several locations.

I am hopeful these guys after seeing this post won't be able to resist trying to cover their ass further as it benefits us every step of the way. Hey Mike and Boylan and Kraus (Smoot and Peterson to a lesser extent), trust my honesty. The best thing you could do is come completely clean before our show is published. But they will always assume covering up is a better decision than owning their actions and motivations. Honestly I feel bad for Kraus most. He is young and doesn't seem to sense that his being silent could leave this information hurting him professionally later on. Who wants to be connected, even in a small way, to the creation of a fake black person to cover up the games of white men? It is really bad optics. He had the least to gain and now maybe has the most to lose.

The plan is for the show to be recorded early next week behind the scenes. Then to release it with short notice being given prior in dozens of locations. Likely on a day or two or three after the recording. When it is published as a video it will go out as a live broadcast. The hosts of the video will be present in the chats and will participate by answering any questions. I will notify this board first because you have been so helpful and I would appreciate any effort to share where you think is fitting.

For ten years apologists have played games in my world and every believing member should have the information necessary to discern that these guys have never had believers best interest at heart. It was always about obfuscation and Plausible Deniability (Nailed it didn't I?) and protecting the good name of the Church (Even though it doesn't have a good name). People deserve enough information to make new and informed choices and to know which side is far more honest with them.
What do you plan to say about the Richard Nygren profiles (middle left and middle right images)?

We will have things to say about these but they are the weakest pieces of evidence out of the 20 or so things we have. These images could have been created by anyone. There is circumstantial evidence around 1 of them but little can be said about who the creator or author of these two images is in this fiasco.
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MormonDiscussionInc wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:33 pm
Tom wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:30 pm
What do you plan to say about the Richard Nygren profiles (middle left and middle right images)?
We will have things to say about these but they are the weakest pieces of evidence out of the 20 or so things we have. These images could have been created by anyone. There is circumstantial evidence around 1 of them but little can be said about who the creator or author of these two images is in this fiasco.
I assume that the profile on the right side was created by someone who was trolling Peterson. I haven’t seen any evidence that the account was created by Boylan, Parker, or any other apologists.
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More hits since I’ve got time: “languish”, “hyperbole/hyperbolic”, “paranoid”, overuse of “literally”, overuse of “downright”, “fanatic/fanatical”, “absurd/absurdities”, “narrow” as an adjective, liberal use of “blatant”, “simplistically/simplistic”, “censor/censoring”, “revisionist”

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