Mormonism is a cult

[MG 2.0]

No it’s not.

Regards,
MG

Yes. It is. Telling people their leaving the cult means they live in a different reality is affirming you view the church to be a cult in all the worst possible ways.

No it doesn’t.

Regards,
MG

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Yes. It is. Telling people their leaving the cult means they live in a different reality is affirming you view the church to be a cult in all the worst possible ways.

No it doesn’t.

Regards,
MG

MG luxuriates in a flawed epistemology, which for him is nothing more than an endless special pleading argument - that his beliefs are special in the sense that they can't be challenged by conventional logic and reasoning. Obviously feelings are not a reliable pathway to truth, but he uses them to codify his cognitive bias as truth. It’s probably the worst epistemology you can have.

How else can one believe in iStones, the ridiculous Book of Abraham, a church that covers for known child rapists, endless contradictions, obvious financial fraud committed by ‘apostles’ and the First Presidency, the denial of Christ’s atonement to children, the bartering of girls and women - the former being married off to crusty old men as young teens, the use of black slaves as tithing, anachronisms in the Book of Mormon, and literally hundreds of problematic proclamations, policies, and procedures. The Mormon cult is not just a fraud, but it’s an obvious fraud.

#notacult. -_-

The Mormon cult is a sham; not even the leadership cares about the rules. Wilford married a dead baby. And threw himself a marital feast afterward. In the temple.

Not a cult. -_-

And yet, the shill just spams away. Week after week, despite the master classes that have been afforded him here. He doesn’t read. He doesn’t care. He just blithely scrolls past posts, and repeats himself like the dumb damned muppet he is.

- Doc

[drumdude]

It is important to remember that historical details do not carry the saving power of covenants, ordinances, and doctrine. To be distracted by less significant details at the expense of missing the unfolding miracle of the Restoration is like spending time analyzing a gift box and ignoring the wonder of the gift itself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... nary_2023/

Wouldn’t a cult tell you to ignore the fact that the history of their church is problematic enough that it should be avoided entirely?

[Marcus]

It is important to remember that historical details do not carry the saving power of covenants, ordinances, and doctrine. To be distracted by less significant details at the expense of missing the unfolding miracle of the Restoration is like spending time analyzing a gift box and ignoring the wonder of the gift itself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... nary_2023/

Wouldn’t a cult tell you to ignore the fact that the history of their church is problematic enough that it should be avoided entirely?

Wow. So much has changed.

President Joseph Fielding Smith (President of the LDS Church in the early 1970’s) stated: “Mormonism must stand or fall on the story of Joseph Smith. He was either a Prophet of God, divinely called, properly appointed and commissioned or he was one of the biggest frauds this world has ever seen. There is no middle ground. If Joseph was a deceiver, who willfully attempted to mislead people, then he should be exposed, his claims should be refuted, and his doctrines shown to be false…” (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1 pp.188-189.)

[MG 2.0]

https://tokensandsigns.org/the-267-hidd ... -woodruff/

The 267 Hidden Brides of Wilford Woodruff
…according to Mormon doctrine, Lydia Hart will be resurrected as a 6 year old girl and a plural wife of Wilford Woodruff.

- Doc

And then grow to maturity. Whether or not she would then remain a plural wife of Wilford Woodruff is debatable.

Truth be told, she might choose an altogether different path. But her options are open rather than closed. That’s what ordinances and covenants do, they open doors. We then choose whether or not to enter and/or walk through them.

The important thing is that she has been sealed into the family of God. The Apostle Peter was given similar keys.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Lydia Hart will be resurrected as a 6 year old girl and a plural wife of Wilford Woodruff.
- Doc

Perhaps she was just a few months shy of seven.

That wouldn’t matter in the hereafter. Do the research. Prophets have taught that children will grow to the age of maturity.

Regards,
MG

[Doctor Steuss]

Perhaps she was just a few months shy of seven.

That wouldn’t matter in the hereafter. Do the research. Prophets have taught that children will grow to the age of maturity.

Regards,
MG

Moksha was being cheeky, and referencing the Church's essay on Joseph's plural wives wherein the Church couldn't bring themselves to say that Joseph married a 14-year-old child, instead saying she was "a few months shy of 15."

[MG 2.0]

That wouldn’t matter in the hereafter. Do the research. Prophets have taught that children will grow to the age of maturity.

Regards,
MG

Moksha was being cheeky, and referencing the Church's essay on Joseph's plural wives wherein the Church couldn't bring themselves to say that Joseph married a 14-year-old child, instead saying she was "a few months shy of 15."

Ah, OK.

Regards,
MG

[honorentheos]

Yes. It is. Telling people their leaving the cult means they live in a different reality is affirming you view the church to be a cult in all the worst possible ways.

No it doesn’t.

Regards,
MG

Telling people that Mormonism can't be understood after having lived it for any length of time once one has left it is, in fact, calling it a cult in the worst possible way. This dual reality you demand exists in order to create an "other" out of those who leave is bad cult 101.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

https://tokensandsigns.org/the-267-hidd ... -woodruff/

And then grow to maturity. Whether or not she would then remain a plural wife of Wilford Woodruff is debatable.

Truth be told, she might choose an altogether different path. But her options are open rather than closed. That’s what ordinances and covenants do, they open doors. We then choose whether or not to enter and/or walk through them.

The important thing is that she has been sealed into the family of God. The Apostle Peter was given similar keys.

Regards,
MG

MG is good with child brides, apparently.

- Doc