Mike Parker says Neville is trying to blackmail him

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dastardly stem wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:28 pm
I didn't get very far into Bill's episode when I decided this was a bit much for me. Something about insinuating Parker ran with the Nygren name to post comments in comments section to troll or goad? That seemed obviously not Parker to me. But, I don't know the dude at all. For some reason Bill thought it was more likely Parker? Whatever....As I said...a bit much. A hill too far...or whatever. But I don't know how it went beyond that. I don't know how close to accurate Parker is in his description. I also happen to not be aware of how close to accurate Parker is in describing his own blog's criticisms, or Neville's contributions. or Neville's partners own antisemitism. As I understand Parker's blog from people here, it was not about the content at all.

I don't know these people and don't care that much. I'd agree making up and running with, to whatever extent it was so ran with, a black man as cover is tacky at best. I don't consider it racist, per se. i think it's a bit deaf. Colossally stupid. Sure.

Didn't Parker show up at Bill's son's work or something? I don't mean to downplay whatever Parker and his family are experiencing, if they are in fact experiencing it. But showing up to someone's work all upset sounds pretty crazily unhinged. Why would that be any less a threat than whatever threats he thinks he's gotten from others?
Bill was meticulously cautious in his podcast to present the facts as they are. He doesn’t need to add commentary, because the viewers can connect the dots as it unfolds.
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Ah, terrific! I knew we’d be seeing more! As for Parker’s post…

—He seems to misunderstand what Reel and Pynakker were saying about him specifically. They were careful to emphasize that they *don’t* think he’s a “racist,” but, rather, he *is* guilty of failing to clear the air. Parker didn’t seem to care if people mistakenly believed Boylan’s explanation. Reel and Pynakker describe Parker as “tone deaf.”

—I don’t understand why Parker wants Neville to delete the link to Reel’s YouTube video. Parker himself gives his readers more than enough information such that they could effortlessly find it via a Google search.

—I also don’t understand how/why Parker’s family would be “worried.” He says that “emails” were sent to him. So, did he share these emails with his wife and kids, or do they have access to his personal email address? Or, instead, is he alarming them by telling them that some anti-Mormon bogeyman is sending him “scary” emails?
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dastardly stem wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:28 pm
I didn't get very far into Bill's episode when I decided this was a bit much for me. Something about insinuating Parker ran with the Nygren name to post comments in comments section to troll or goad? That seemed obviously not Parker to me. But, I don't know the dude at all. For some reason Bill thought it was more likely Parker? Whatever....As I said...a bit much. A hill too far...or whatever. But I don't know how it went beyond that. I don't know how close to accurate Parker is in his description…
One part of the podcast that I think supported Reel’s position was a story Pynakker told. In an interview, he said that Nygren (who at the time he thought was Peter Pan because he heard boylan say it) had misquoted him. He did not mention Pan, the blog or anything, he just said something like, ‘Nygren, I don’t know how to contact you, so I’ll say it here, you misquoted me! Don’t do that!’

Shortly thereafter, “Peter Pan” wrote something like ‘Pynakker says I misquoted him, I don’t think my misquote was substantially different, [ :roll: ] but here’s the correct quote…’

To me, that was clear evidence Parker acted like he was Nygren, until he was found out.
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drumdude wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:01 pm
Also just an observation. Daniel Peterson, who for years gleefully posted at great length about Peter Pan and the critics failed attempts to unmask him, has gone almost completely silent on this issue. He simply posts a link to Parker’s blog with almost no commentary.

With friends like DCP, who needs enemies?
Well, dowsin’ Dan has been busy lately crapping all over trans people. Linked from his blog:

https://babylonbee.com/news/sesame-stre ... -elmo-doll
Hasbro Introduces New ‘Transition Me Elmo’ Doll
He seems to have fixated on the issue of transgenderism. Is this a new thing of his? I don’t really read his blog until he comes up as a topic, and then I’ll hop over there, roll my eyes, and then forget about him until he’s brought up again.

Anyway. Cool. Mormons can’t hate on tEh gAyZ any more, so they shifted to a ‘safer’ target?

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They have been terrified by what sound like threats and worried about disturbed individuals showing up at our home uninvited.
Luckily Bill's son didn't seem to feel so threatened by a disturbed individual showing up at his work uninvited.

Honestly that he thinks associating with Bill or anyone not favorable to Mormonism is problematic says plenty. He sounds a bit prone to histrionics, likely thanks to his religious training.
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Its likely someone will call you racist if you say much of anything about race these days. That he and his partners didn't realize that its not really Bill's problem, nor anyone elses. If that hurts his feelings, and he has half an awareness of anything beyond himself, he would have called his friend, whoever said it, and told him to correct the lie quickly. That he didn't do that, or something like it, also isn't Bill's fault.
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Dam....I was trying not to be interested in this but....I am pulled into this drama. What is fascinating to me is the behind the scenes dog whistle language. Brother........Church leaders would appreciate that.... :shock: Anti Mormons are having a field day with this. :lol: I would appreciate if they would use the correct name. Anti COJCOLDS works to avoid those victories for Satan.
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My comment on Parker's blog that there are contradictions he can clear up and questions he can answer though I expect he will not publish my comment(s):
Bill Reel here you are determined to push a narrative no matter how false it is.

When the story first went public, you claimed to be clueless to knowing anything about Nygren going so far as to say I "accused me (Parker) of claiming to be a Richard Nygren, SUPPOSEDLY a black man" and that you "had no idea what (Reel) was talking about" only to later admit your friend (Boylan) created Nygren, and that you knew about it immediately, and fully understood the creation was a black man given the location of Birmingham, Alabama.

You went into my former place of employment under false pretenses to confront me and ended up hashing this out with my son and threatening a lawsuit while knowing the whole time you were were actually guilty of doing what I reported (you allowed the Nygren persona to persist and seemed very comfortable with be referred to as Richard Nygren.

Claimed you couldn't clear up the Nygren issue so long as his real identity was not known as such would be dishonest if you claimed to be Nygren and confusing if you denied it. Yet even when you had opportunity after being outed as Mike Parker you still didn't clear up the issue. Also why would it be confusing to clear up being alleged to be Nygren, especially in light of other evidence where you clearly had no problem denying being Smoot, Peterson, or Kraus?

If you and Boylan are friends and Boylan created Nygren without your knowledge and you were uncomfortable with the Nygren persona, why didn't you tell Boylan to retract it? and why wouldn't he retract it on his own... you guys are friends on the inside of a secret right?

Why wouldn't you after imposing that you would be in the live chat of the Show where someone posing as Richard Nygren commented, immediately comment as yourself to ensure that no one make the assumption that you were the one posing as Nygren? Why did you allow it to stand unquestioned if you were so adamantly opposed to be associated with Nygren?

Why did you threaten a lawsuit against me when you knew you were lying about not knowing anything about a Richard Nygren and had no case based on the evidence we presented?

Why did you put doubt in the mind of your readers by suggesting a false representation about my effort to reach out to all 5 persons involved when I clearly made a reasonable attempt to reach all 5 men and it was they who were avoiding interacting with me?

Why did you seemingly suggest to your audience implicitly that you were in fact Nygren?

Why if you wanted to steer clear of being seen as claiming to be Richard Nygren, why did you respond to a question directed at Richard Nygren specifically?
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Who knew that Mike Parker was the actual victim in all of this.

I’m glad Mike Parker set us straight.

Good freaking Lord!!!! Is Mike Parker clinically insane?
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And of course, Parker had added a postscript:
Postscript: After I published this blog post, Jonathan Neville emailed me under the subject line “Seriously?”, protesting that he had “proposed reconciliation” and objecting to my claim that he tried to blackmail me. I doubt that he’s actually read this post, and I honestly don’t care anymore. I’m not going to correspond with him further, as he’s either dishonest or he doesn’t understand the obvious implications of what he himself writes.

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