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Someone here believes that we should never blame society about anything. The vast majority of people are wonderful people, apparently.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:19 pm
I’m equal parts impressed and amused that would illicit a flurry of selfsame fruits.
Does the study contradict that there's a correlations between social exclusion and aggression?
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:24 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:19 pm
I’m equal parts impressed and amused that would illicit a flurry of selfsame fruits.
Does the study contradict that there's a correlations between social exclusion and aggression?
The goalpost game can be fun, I'm sure. I'm just not personally really big on it.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:26 pm

The goalpost game can be fun, I'm sure. I'm just not personally really big on it.
That's what I basically said in the OP.

Here's what the authors conclude
Many theorists have concluded, very plausibly,that aggressive behavior leads to social exclusion, because peopled is like associating with someone whose behavior is harmful or disruptive. Our findings do not prove that theory wrong, but they do support the opposite direction of causality. Exclusion from social groups and relationships—even just hearing a forecast about being alone during the distant future—appears to produce a strong tendency toward aggressive behavior
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:16 pm

QED
Here's what the authors conclude,

Many theorists have concluded, very plausibly,that aggressive behavior leads to social exclusion, because people dislike associating with someone whose behavior is harmful or disruptive. Our findings do not prove that theory wrong, but they do support the opposite direction of causality. Exclusion from social groups and relationships—even just hearing a forecast about being alone during the distant future—appears to produce a strong tendency toward aggressive behavior
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:13 pm
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What, precisely, are you proposing that we should make children afraid of?
Fearmongering. Tell the parents that bullying and social exclusion increases the chances that a kid brings a weapon to school.
So, you want to turn schools into an extortion racket? Pick me for dodge ball or I’ll bring a gun to school and kill kids and it will be your fault?

Any proposal that places the responsibility for a school shooter’s actions on the other kids is a recipe for disaster.

We want kids to learn at school. Fear ain’t conducive to learning.

It’s this kind of messed up proposal that leads me to conclude this is all about your desire to punish people who rejected you.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:50 pm
What, precisely, are you proposing that we should make children afraid of?
Feelings are more important than the evidence, apparently.

Here's what the authors concluded.

Many theorists have concluded, very plausibly,that aggressive behavior leads to social exclusion, because people dislike associating with someone whose behavior is harmful or disruptive. Our findings do not prove that theory wrong, but they do support the opposite direction of causality. Exclusion from social groups and relationships—even just hearing a forecast about being alone during the distant future—appears to produce a strong tendency toward aggressive behavior
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:21 pm
Someone here believes that we should never blame society about anything. The vast majority of people are wonderful people, apparently.
Straw man.
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:47 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:50 pm
What, precisely, are you proposing that we should make children afraid of?
Feelings are more important than the evidence, apparently.

Here's what the authors concluded.

Many theorists have concluded, very plausibly,that aggressive behavior leads to social exclusion, because people dislike associating with someone whose behavior is harmful or disruptive. Our findings do not prove that theory wrong, but they do support the opposite direction of causality. Exclusion from social groups and relationships—even just hearing a forecast about being alone during the distant future—appears to produce a strong tendency toward aggressive behavior
How many participants in the study physically attacked the person or persons who excluded them?
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:46 pm

Any proposal that places the responsibility for a school shooter’s actions on the other kids is a recipe for disaster.
That's not what I am proposing at all! Jesus Christ.

I am simply proposing fearmongering to discourage bullying and social exclusion.

Fearmongering seems to be effective. We always tell kids not to talk to adult strangers (which is an excellent advice), even though the odds of a kid getting kidnapped are about one in a million, but the fearmongering works.
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