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Tom wrote:
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Is that the granny who "goes"? I bet she's a blast!
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What a lovely pic - thanks Tom. Great story as well. Her ministers look vaguely familiar, but I cannot imagine why, since it's several decades since I was anywhere near Pasadena.

I'm so happy to hear that she knows her Mormon Doctrine well. Lots of members put stock in learning sections of the Book of Mormon, but there's comparatively little unique doctrine of Mormonism there, so I have to applaud her diligence in going to the one true source for her inspiration.

Her ward members must really appreciate her, especially on F&T Sunday, when I expect she's one of the first to get up to bear her testimony.

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Re: Latest Numbers from the Interpreter Foundation

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I must confess that it's been a minute since I reviewed the Interpreter Foundation's expenses. (Reading through this thread, I must ask: whatever happened to the Vox Nostrum blog? See here.)

First, it bears noting that the Foundation has been entirely opaque in its reporting on expenses for Six Days in August. I share the Relief Society sister in Parowan's grave disappointment about that fact.

Second, I noticed something unusual about the Foundation's expense report for the fourth quarter of 2023. I need to point out by way of background that each expense report includes a report of volunteer hours donated by the Proprietor’s acolytes to editing, reviewing, and writing. Whether Foundation watchers should view these figures as gospel truths or something akin to Book of Mormon population figures or war fatality numbers has always been unclear. In any case, the quarterly expense reports indicate the total numbers of hours given during the quarter by the Executive Board, Board of Editors, Contributing Editors, Editorial Consultants, and "Others."

Now, the Executive Board members have always been the Proprietor’s workhorses. For example, Executive Board members alone contributed 2,026.5 volunteer hours during the first quarter of 2022.

Members of the Board of Editors have been, shall we say, less faithful in their service to the Foundation. For example, these eight individuals provided 56 total volunteer hours in the first quarter of 2023 (an average of 7 hours per person), 74 total volunteer hours in the second quarter of 2023 (an average of 9.25 hours per person), and 70 total volunteer hours in the third quarter of 2023 (an average of 8.75 hours) per person. Until recently, the Board of Editors' all-time record for volunteer hours during a quarter was 313.

The expense report for the fourth quarter of 2023, however, reports that the Board of Editors gave 2,539 total hours of service. That means that each board member contributed an average of 313.38 hours during the quarter and an average of 105.8 hours per month. In essence, the board members worked a part-time job during the fourth quarter. If we value their time at $50 an hour (as the Foundation does), we find that the Board of Editors contributed a monetary equivalent of $126,950 during the quarter. That's truly commendable.

I would suggest that the Foundation set up a challenge: if the members of the Board of Editors collectively give 3,000 hours or more of service during the third quarter of 2024, they get to dump a plate of Hungarian goulash on the Proprietor’s head during a live-streamed devotional.

Will this estimable record of service continue in 2024? We shall see. This far, the Foundation has been slow to post 2024 figures.

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I am pleased to report that the Interpreter Foundation, which "want(s) you to know how your money is being spent," has not posted a single quarterly expense report for 2024.

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I'm sure they've been reviewing the site traffic and realized no one is even reading what they publish. So why bother?


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I note that the oft-promised transparent financial accounting for the film project Witnesses has yet to materialise. The executive producer appears to have been lying when he told donors (on more than one occasion) that he would make public the financial comings and goings of that venture. One assumes that’s because there were more goings than comings and that they contain embarrassing disclosures about expenditures and payments.
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I’m pleased to report that the Foundation has now posted quarterly expense reports for the first three quarters of 2024. https://interpreterfoundation.org/foundation/expenses/

A few notes:

Sadly, the volunteer hours section of the report, which included monetary equivalents of time donations, has apparently been eliminated. I suppose we’ll never know if the Foundation adopted my suggestion to create a challenge: “if the members of the Board of Editors collectively give 3,000 hours or more of service during the third quarter of 2024, they get to dump a plate of Hungarian goulash on the Proprietor’s head during a live-streamed devotional.”

It appears that the Foundation set a quarterly spending record in the third quarter of 2024. Total account disbursements were $93,098.66. Operating expenses alone for the quarter were $70,314.58. No details are provided about the types of operating expenses.

The link to the report for the second quarter of 2024 is mistakenly labeled “Second Quarter 2043.”

In older Foundation news, Jeff Lindsay resigned as executive editor of Interpreter effective September 1, 2024. Brant Gardner and Rebecca Lambert have been named as additional executive editors. (There are now three such editors.) Brother Wyatt continues his labors as managing editor. https://interpreterfoundation.org/an-editorial-change/
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"Operating Expenses" is a pretty opaque category, comprising the large majority of funds. And I don't see anything related to the film. I suppose we'll have to wait for the tax filings to get any light shed on that.
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Lindsay writes more here about his resignation as Executive Editor. He doesn't air any grievances, or anything, but mentions a number of obviously competing demands on his time.

His overall take on the role of Executive Editor is worth noting.
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Physics Guy wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:32 pm
Lindsay writes more
Jeff Lindsay wrote:I recently told a granddaughter that serving in that role was like being a bishop over a large ward of numerous papers, almost all in need of some repentance and many of which needed excommunication ... .
That’s another pretty damning public repudiation of the Interpreter's “scholarship.”
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:44 pm
Physics Guy wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:32 pm
Lindsay writes more

That’s another pretty damning public repudiation of the Interpreter's “scholarship.”
Considering the low quality of what gets published… not surprising at all.
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