I Love This Man

[Res Ipsa]

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This is rich coming from a Trumper. Also, if the Deep State is covering for the Bidens then how did Grassley release this:

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/ne ... ery-scheme

It should be noted that the FBI agent and the legal team involved with him are being ran by Grassley himself.

These fuckin’ guys…

- Doc

We knew all this stuff before BIden was even elected President. It's amazing how you fail to see the irony in Biden's calls to tax the rich, make more gun control laws, only to see these rules not apply to "the Bidens." This is why democratic socialism always turns into communism.

Yes, we did. And so, if we play by your own rules, that means the American electorate elected Joe Biden in a free and fair election with knowledge of these accusations that they were aware of and that the Trump-controlled FBI and DOJ could not substantiate. So that makes all these hearings a Witch hunt and the attempts to impeach President Biden a treasonous attempt to undue the will of the American people.

Right?

The real irony is you complaining about rich people not paying taxes when you were all for cutting their taxes.

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We knew all this stuff before BIden was even elected President. It's amazing how you fail to see the irony in Biden's calls to tax the rich, make more gun control laws, only to see these rules not apply to "the Bidens." This is why democratic socialism always turns into communism.

So the Deep State wasn't covering for them?

The 59 CIA officers attempted to cover for Biden. The left had control of Facebook and Twitter at the time. We still had Bobulinkski's testimony before the 2020 election but Biden's lies on the debate stage were more than enough to satisfy Democrats and neverTrumpers. The partisan DOJ tried their best to obstruct the IRS investigation and get Hunter immunity. Then they resorted to impersonating Senate Republicans to keep this scandal covered up and pissed off the judge in the process.

And not a peep from Mitt Romney, John Thune, Liz Cheney, Lisa Murkowski,

[Res Ipsa]

So the Deep State wasn't covering for them?

The 59 CIA officers attempted to cover for Biden. The left had control of Facebook and Twitter at the time. We still had Bobulinkski's testimony before the 2020 election but Biden's lies on the debate stage were more than enough to satisfy Democrats and neverTrumpers. The partisan DOJ tried their best to obstruct the IRS investigation and get Hunter immunity. Then they resorted to impersonating Senate Republicans to keep this scandal covered up and pissed off the judge in the process.

And not a peep from Mitt Romney, John Thune, Liz Cheney, Lisa Murkowski,

Now you’re just flat out making stuff up. You are literally Democratic Party’s best friend.

[Gadianton]

I read Res's link. Let's call it the liberal response. Clearly, the bias is against Republicans, though can't say it didn't make good points.

They really pounded the pulpit with this one:

There’s something else that debunks the story: that Chuck Grassley apparently cares so little about substantiating it he’s willing to risk the life of the informant.

They interpret that as meaning he obviously thinks it's fake. I disagree, I think he believes the informant is credible but is willing to risk the informant's life and case credibility. It was unnecessary to make it public. Couldn't Grassley and his peers read the information themselves and privately pressure the FBI to do more? I think it's more likely he believes it's real, but believes the probability of being a dead end is high enough to justify the immediate sugar rush of releasing.

It may not result in the informant being killed, but will that informant ever trust the FBI again? At minimum, the informant will need to be set up for life to continue working with investigators. Worse, if there was anybody else involved who could have corroborated the intel as an independent witness, that door has shut for two reasons. 1) others informing unlikely, knowing they'll be outed 2) now that the nature of the claim is public information, any witness suddenly coming forward saying the same thing will be suspect. You need witnesses corroborating from separate interrogation rooms.

So here's the problems I see for the 5 mil case, I'm not done yet, I'm just reporting where I'm at and open to feedback in case I'm missing something.

1) As mentioned, the CHS who made the claim appears convinced that payments to Joe Biden were done so discretely that it would take 10 years to unravel*, if that's credible, then proving Biden's guilt by tracking financial transactions is unlikely.

2) Hunters laptop with 127,000 emails searchable online apparently has no yielded no direct indictment of Joe's guilt. No emails from dad saying, "hey, don't forget about out meeting with xyz tomorrow" or anything else that would count as an admission or we'd never hear the end of it. If guilty, Joe must be sharper than he's given credit for. He's the king of discretion.

3) If tracking finances is out and catching Joe in an admission is very unlikely, the main hope seems to be to get more from the witness, who has just been burned. So that's out.

I've only spent about 20 minutes on the 640 pager, it's very hard for me to follow, but I plan on pursuing it some more. Dr. Shades, Dr. E, or any others who are also reading feel free to direct me to the information that substantiates the 5 mil bribe claim, and unpacking it.

Finally, if any conservative reading this believes I'm simply dismissing out of liberal bias, please explain to me where I'm going wrong.

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2) Hunters laptop with 127,000 emails searchable online apparently has no yielded no direct indictment of Joe's guilt. No emails from dad saying, "hey, don't forget about out meeting with xyz tomorrow" or anything else that would count as an admission or we'd never hear the end of it. If guilty, Joe must be sharper than he's given credit for. He's the king of discretion.

You've got Hunter's text to his daughter saying, "I hope you never have to take care of this family for 30 years like I have had to. But don't worry, I won't take half of it the way Pops did to me." Every mob boss knows what plausible deniability is and they often choose to know as little as possible. "I had no idea says Joe Biden, the Chinese, Russian, Romanian money etc. just showed in my account. I don't know why."

I've only spent about 20 minutes on the 640 pager, it's very hard for me to follow, but I plan on pursuing it some more. Dr. Shades, Dr. E, or any others who are also reading feel free to direct me to the information that substantiates the 5 mil bribe claim, and unpacking it.

Mykola Zlochevsky, the owner of natural gas company Burisma Holdings, told the FBI informant in 2016 while meeting at a coffee shop in Vienna, Austria, that “it cost 5 [million] to pay one Biden, and 5 [million] to another Biden,” according to the redacted FD-1023 form.

“Zlochevsky made some comment that although Hunter Biden ‘was stupid, and his (Zlochevsky’s) dog was smarter,’ Zlochevsky needed to keep Hunter Biden (on Burisma’s board) ‘so everything will be okay,’” the June 2020 document says.

The source asked whether Hunter Biden or Joe Biden told Zlochevsky he should “retain” the younger Biden; Zlochevsky allegedly replied, “They both did.”

https://nypost.com/2023/07/20/biden-bri ... -involved/

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It's still election interference for the FBI to ban the story from social media, in addition to 60 agents lying about the reality of the laptop to the American people prior to the election. This is how the media committed a very real example of election fraud in 2020.

But it wasn't a free and fair election. The CIA and FBI violated 1st. amendment/freedom of speech of their political opponents in an effort to protect BIden.

Because that's how it always works with communists. They want to impose taxes on other people while they themselves never pay.

[Res Ipsa]

2) Hunters laptop with 127,000 emails searchable online apparently has no yielded no direct indictment of Joe's guilt. No emails from dad saying, "hey, don't forget about out meeting with xyz tomorrow" or anything else that would count as an admission or we'd never hear the end of it. If guilty, Joe must be sharper than he's given credit for. He's the king of discretion.

You've got Hunter's text to his daughter saying, "I hope you never have to take care of this family for 30 years like I have had to. But don't worry, I won't take half of it the way Pops did to me." Every mob boss knows what plausible deniability is and they often choose to know as little as possible. "I had no idea says Joe Biden, the Chinese, Russian, Romanian money etc. just showed in my account. I don't know why."

I've only spent about 20 minutes on the 640 pager, it's very hard for me to follow, but I plan on pursuing it some more. Dr. Shades, Dr. E, or any others who are also reading feel free to direct me to the information that substantiates the 5 mil bribe claim, and unpacking it.

Mykola Zlochevsky, the owner of natural gas company Burisma Holdings, told the FBI informant in 2016 while meeting at a coffee shop in Vienna, Austria, that “it cost 5 [million] to pay one Biden, and 5 [million] to another Biden,” according to the redacted FD-1023 form.

“Zlochevsky made some comment that although Hunter Biden ‘was stupid, and his (Zlochevsky’s) dog was smarter,’ Zlochevsky needed to keep Hunter Biden (on Burisma’s board) ‘so everything will be okay,’” the June 2020 document says.

The source asked whether Hunter Biden or Joe Biden told Zlochevsky he should “retain” the younger Biden; Zlochevsky allegedly replied, “They both did.”

https://nypost.com/2023/07/20/biden-bri ... -involved/

Man, you better pray that you are never held to the same type of evidence that you seem to believe merits throwing Joe Biden in the big house.

[Res Ipsa]

I read Res's link. Let's call it the liberal response. Clearly, the bias is against Republicans, though can't say it didn't make good points.

They really pounded the pulpit with this one:

There’s something else that debunks the story: that Chuck Grassley apparently cares so little about substantiating it he’s willing to risk the life of the informant.

They interpret that as meaning he obviously thinks it's fake. I disagree, I think he believes the informant is credible but is willing to risk the informant's life and case credibility. It was unnecessary to make it public. Couldn't Grassley and his peers read the information themselves and privately pressure the FBI to do more? I think it's more likely he believes it's real, but believes the probability of being a dead end is high enough to justify the immediate sugar rush of releasing.

It may not result in the informant being killed, but will that informant ever trust the FBI again? At minimum, the informant will need to be set up for life to continue working with investigators. Worse, if there was anybody else involved who could have corroborated the intel as an independent witness, that door has shut for two reasons. 1) others informing unlikely, knowing they'll be outed 2) now that the nature of the claim is public information, any witness suddenly coming forward saying the same thing will be suspect. You need witnesses corroborating from separate interrogation rooms.

So here's the problems I see for the 5 mil case, I'm not done yet, I'm just reporting where I'm at and open to feedback in case I'm missing something.

1) As mentioned, the CHS who made the claim appears convinced that payments to Joe Biden were done so discretely that it would take 10 years to unravel*, if that's credible, then proving Biden's guilt by tracking financial transactions is unlikely.

2) Hunters laptop with 127,000 emails searchable online apparently has no yielded no direct indictment of Joe's guilt. No emails from dad saying, "hey, don't forget about out meeting with xyz tomorrow" or anything else that would count as an admission or we'd never hear the end of it. If guilty, Joe must be sharper than he's given credit for. He's the king of discretion.

3) If tracking finances is out and catching Joe in an admission is very unlikely, the main hope seems to be to get more from the witness, who has just been burned. So that's out.

I've only spent about 20 minutes on the 640 pager, it's very hard for me to follow, but I plan on pursuing it some more. Dr. Shades, Dr. E, or any others who are also reading feel free to direct me to the information that substantiates the 5 mil bribe claim, and unpacking it.

Finally, if any conservative reading this believes I'm simply dismissing out of liberal bias, please explain to me where I'm going wrong.

I think liberal response is a fair description. But Wheeler is one of those people who digs into facts and pursues them relentlessly. In terms of evidence, she’s head and shoulders better than the House clown committees. Her stuff on the weird transactions that show up in the two iCloud accounts in the months before the laptop surfaced as an October surprise certainly merits attention.

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You've got Hunter's text to his daughter saying, "I hope you never have to take care of this family for 30 years like I have had to. But don't worry, I won't take half of it the way Pops did to me."

Was this about the household upkeep that he was unhappy about paying?

$1,239 in repairs to an air conditioner at “mom-mom’s cottage”
$1,475 to a painter for “back wall and columns at the lake house”
$2,600 for fixing up a “stone retaining wall at the lake”
$475 “for shutters.”

I thought that these guys were multimillionaires from all of their international crime lord-ish schemes. This should all be easy to pay for. Better yet, why didn’t they just have Bill and Hillary threaten the contractors to do the work for free, “or else” ..?
; )

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You've got Hunter's text to his daughter saying, "I hope you never have to take care of this family for 30 years like I have had to. But don't worry, I won't take half of it the way Pops did to me."

Was this about the household upkeep that he was unhappy about paying?

$1,239 in repairs to an air conditioner at “mom-mom’s cottage”
$1,475 to a painter for “back wall and columns at the lake house”
$2,600 for fixing up a “stone retaining wall at the lake”
$475 “for shutters.”

I thought that these guys were multimillionaires from all of their international crime lord-ish schemes. This should all be easy to pay for. Better yet, why didn’t they just have Bill and Hillary threaten the contractors to do the work for free, “or else” ..?
; )

It turns out that whores and cocaine are expensive. Just ask Hunter's exwife.