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ajax18 wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:34 am
You're right I didn't read everything. I'm running out of time in between patients lately due to a very busy office which helps given my own out of control spending. I'm honestly happy to see some economic improvement and get the feeling people are finally going back to work. I fear the next shutdown will be done in the name of climate change. And though my heart says I'd like to see the 90s and Clinton again my head says we're about to take gut punch.
I don't know that we'll ever see a 90s again. At least not anytime soon. We've become so hyper-specialized (and to an extent, monopolized) in our world economies that it takes so little to disrupt things on an epic scale now. As an example, Taiwan makes over half of the world's semiconductors. They are probably responsible for close to 90% of advanced/high-end chips. If China were to decide to invade, or if a natural disaster hit Taiwan, every single industry would feel the effects on a debilitating scale.

Maybe that'll change in the future, and maybe I'm being hyper-pessimistic, but it's no longer "the US coughs, and the world gets a cold" -- it's now "XYZ countries cough, and the world ends up in the ER."

I hope the patient grind is converting to some decent money in your pocket. My optometrist recently had to give up his practice and move into a corporate joint. Insurance (both private and government) had negotiated down prices to the point where it was impossible to keep a front office staff paid appropriately.
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I hope the patient grind is converting to some decent money in your pocket. My optometrist recently had to give up his practice and move into a corporate joint. Insurance (both private and government) had negotiated down prices to the point where it was impossible to keep a front office staff paid appropriately.
I appreciate your sentiment. You pretty much have to be willing to go to a rural area if you want to go into a private practice. Even for MDs, private practice is becoming a thing of the past due to equipment costs. I still make twice as much now as I did at my corporate salaried job. I hate salary with a passion.

My gold isn't exactly doing well but I'm not really a saver. Money is kind of like manure. The higher you pile it up, the more it starts to stink. The thinner you spread it out, the more things start to grow. Being able to help out people with legitimate disabilities is worth more to me than retirement.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:20 pm
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Yup, it's going to suck for future generations when the bill finally comes due. The current burden for each taxpayer is $253,005 (US Debt Clock). Bush increased it by 57% in eight years. Obama increased it by 58% in eight years. Trump, wanting to be the best at socialism, increased it by 33% in only 4 years. Before them, Clinton reduced it by 1%, Bush Sr. increased it by 36%, and Reagan, the greatest socialist marxist communist of them all, increased it by 142%.

Deficit by FY:

FY 2021: $966 billion budgeted WITHOUT pandemic spending
FY 2020: $1.083 trillion budgeted WITHOUT pandemic spending
FY 2019: $984 billion
FY 2018: $779 billion (Trump, and the Republican majority's first budget -- more socialist than the last 5 years of Barack HUSSEIN Obama)
FY 2017: $665 billion. (This was Obama's last budget, which Trump asked to revise to spend even more... because he's a Marxist socialist. Congress said no.)
FY 2016: $585 billion
FY 2015: $442 billion
FY 2014: $485 billion
FY 2013: $680 billion

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Your numbers against Trump only have meaning in that the left and namely Fauci was able to bamboozle him into scamdemic spending. Your scamdemic brought more debt upon future generations than they will ever be able to pay. I don't comprehend a projected $51 trillion debt in under ten years. But one thing I do know is that it will never be paid off by any future generation. We are permanent debtors. One thing about the debt. It always gets bigger. It never gets smaller.
Did you just admit Trump isn’t a genius?
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Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:18 pm
ajax18 wrote:
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Your numbers against Trump only have meaning in that the left and namely Fauci was able to bamboozle him into scamdemic spending. Your scamdemic brought more debt upon future generations than they will ever be able to pay. I don't comprehend a projected $51 trillion debt in under ten years. But one thing I do know is that it will never be paid off by any future generation. We are permanent debtors. One thing about the debt. It always gets bigger. It never gets smaller.
Did you just admit Trump isn’t a genius?
I don't think Trump handled the scamdemic as well as Gov. DeSantis did. DeSantis showed enormous heart and backbone against the media and deep state mob that wanted to crucify him for allowing us to keep our jobs. DeSantis would have fired Fauci and Trump never did. DeSantis kept homes and cars from being repossessed, savings from being exhausted for many people and he deserves the utmost credit for that. I think the voters demonstrated that in the 2022 Florida gubernatorial election.
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I don't think Trump handled the scamdemic as well as Gov. DeSantis.
Gov. DeSantis' lack of consistent conservative ideology or ethics, and his willingness to be a welfare queen and suck at the federal teat certainly helped a lot.

Almost a quarter of a BILLION dollars in federal socialist wealth redistribution for Florida from COVID programs.

Although, that's nothing compared to the $19 Billion dollars that DeSocialist has scrambled to grab from Daddy Biden's infrastructure bill. Ironically, both Florida Senators voted against the bill that DeSocialist is now welfare queening so hard.
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Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:57 pm
I don't think Trump handled the scamdemic as well as Gov. DeSantis.
Gov. DeSantis' lack of consistent conservative ideology or ethics, and his willingness to be a welfare queen and suck at the federal teat certainly helped a lot.

Almost a quarter of a BILLION dollars in federal socialist wealth redistribution for Florida from COVID programs.

Although, that's nothing compared to the $19 Billion dollars that DeSocialist has scrambled to grab from Daddy Biden's infrastructure bill. Ironically, both Florida Senators voted against the bill that DeSocialist is now welfare queening so hard.
I mean isn't that just a case of the welfare is here whether you voted for it or not, so why not take it? Even I tell patients to use their medicaid benefits rather than lose them.
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FOX News forced to report good news for Biden again as the quarterly GDP is double what it was expected to be. FOX News hosts stunned and mocking the notion that we're heading for recession.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhVJkfm-LRE
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“Numbers don’t lie.” The Biden economy is surging, so why aren’t Americans feeling it?

Mehdi Hasan does a brilliant take down of the media constantly pushing negative economic news during a good economy.

https://youtu.be/vmnAYoXhc2c?t=759

He said "my industry" has also been in the habit of grading Republicans and Donald Trump on a curve. And proves this by highlighting how "200,000 new jobs for the month" was being reported on during Trump and Biden. When it happened under Trump it was reported as "robust" growth and when it happens under Biden it is always "disappointing." That's because we expect more from Democrat Presidents apparently. 200k jobs in a month was well above Trump's average even before the pandemic, whereas 200k jobs in a month is less than half the average under Biden.
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-s ... s-9c2b2ec1
U.S. stocks have been on a tear this year, with the S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite scoring their strongest first seven months of a year in decades, according to Dow Jones Market Data.
Ajax, this is great news and Joe Biden has your support now, right? Because the stock market is very important to Republicans, right?

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Breitbart Business Digest: We Haven’t Had a Year This Bad Since Obama Was President

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Former President Barack Obama and President Joe Biden arrive at a ceremony to unveil the official Obama White House portraits at the White House on September 7, 2022, in Washington, DC.
Things Have Not Been This Bad Since Biden Was Obama’s Vice President

The last time Americans saw a drop in household income as large as we did last year, Barack Obama was president.

The Census Bureau on Tuesday released its calculations for the change in real median household income for last year. By its calculations, the median income of U.S. households fell in 2022 by 2.3 percent, the worst decline since 2010.

History may not necessarily repeat or even rhyme, but it certainly rings a bell on occasion. The last time household income suffered a decline as large as it did in the second year of Biden’s presidency was in the second year of Biden’s vice presidency.

That’s before taxes. Once you calculate in changes to the taxes paid and subsidies handed out, household income fell 8.8 percent. A lot of the post-tax decline had to do with the lapsing of the Biden administration’s pandemic “rescue” policies—like child tax credits and the super-sized earned income tax credit—that pumped up incomes and contributed to the worst inflation in decades.

The real median earnings of all workers—which includes part-time and full-time workers—declined 2.2 percent. Median earnings of those who worked full-time, year-round fell 1.3 percent.

The Biden White House and its establishment media allies keep acting like the Big Guy’s low approval rating on the economy—and low approval rating overall—is some big, unfathomable mystery. The same with depressed consumer sentiment and surveys showing that large numbers of Americans believe we were in a recession this year.

Some have even speculated that this was the result of a mass delusion or Republican propaganda. The answer, of course, is much simpler. People got poorer because inflation ate away the value of their incomes. That’s left a lot of people with a bad taste in their mouths when they are forced to speak the name Joe Biden.

The “Family” Secrets: Income Details Are Even Uglier

Digging down into the details of the Census report on income for 2022 only makes things look worse.

Family household income actually fell by even more than the median, dropping 2.9 percent. Non-family households saw a climb of 0.8 percent. Older Americans saw an income decline of 2.1 percent, worse than the 1.4 percent decline for people under 65. So, families and the elderly have suffered the most.

That chaos at the southern border It is not helping Americans earn better incomes. Native-born incomes fell 2.5 percent while foreign-born incomes actually edged up 0.2 percent.


Incomes were down across the country. The region that got hit the hardest was the Midwest, where income fell by a stunning 4.7 percent. In the Northeast, where Biden dominated electoral results in 2020, median household income fell 3.8 percent. In the West, income fell 3.2 percent. In the South, income ticked down just 0.1 percent.

The damage to incomes in the Midwest and the Northeast may be a factor for voters in swing states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan next year.

While Joe Biden claims his programs will rebuild the economy from “the bottom up,” the numbers do not support that contention. The official poverty rate was 11.5 percent, with 37.9 million people in poverty. “Neither the rate nor the number in poverty was significantly different from 2021,” the Census Bureau said.

There was a big jump in a confusing gauge called the “supplementary poverty measure.” Remember when Biden claimed that child poverty had been cut nearly in half? (A claim he repeated on Tuesday, by the way.) This was not as measured by the official poverty rate but the supplemental measure, which includes government handouts. Biden could not muster enough support to continue some of his pandemic handouts now that the crisis has passed, so this measure of child poverty went up by 4.6 percent, the biggest single-year drop ever.

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President Joe Biden speaks about Bidenomics in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on August 15, 2023. (ANDREW CABALLERO-REYNOLDS/AFP via Getty Images)

The Biden administration wants you to think this is evidence of the cruelty of Republicans who refused to vote to continue the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) welfare measures. A better interpretation is that ARPA never did much to reduce child poverty in the first place. It just papered it over by sending checks to extremely low-income households. Remove the handouts and suddenly the impoverished kids are seen to be impoverished again.

Bidenflation Resurgent?
Joe Biden memorably said 15 months ago that bringing down inflation was his “top domestic priority.”

“Look, the bottom line is this: Americans have a choice right now between two paths, reflecting two very different sets of values,” Biden said in a speech at the White House in May of 2022. “My plan attacks inflation and grows the economy by lowering costs for working families, giving workers well-deserved raises, reducing the deficit by historic levels and making big corporations and the very wealthiest Americans pay their fair share.”

We now know how that worked out. The culprit in the decline in real income last year was inflation. The measure the Census Bureau uses to adjust for inflation rose to 7.8 percent last year, the biggest jump since 1981. No wonder 63 percent of the public say they disapprove of Biden’s handling of inflation.

On Wednesday, the Labor Department will release the August consumer price index (CPI). The consensus estimate has moved from an expectation for inflation to be basically flat with July’s monthly rise of 0.2 percent to an increase of 0.6 percent, largely because energy prices have risen sharply. The year-over-year headline figure is seen as coming in at 3.6 percent, up from July’s 3.2 percent.

Core CPI is expected to fall by more even though the annual numbers will still be higher. The forecast is for 0.2 percent month-over-month, matching July, and 4.4 percent year-over-year, down from July’s 4.7 percent.

The Cleveland Fed’s nowcast is less hopeful on inflation. It sees headline rising by around 0.8 percent for the month and 3.8 percent for the year. Core inflation is nowcasted at nearly 0.4 percent for the month and 4.5 percent for the year.

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2023/ ... president/

Many of the inflation reduction numbers compare food prices. Meat prices have not went up because the price of steak 4 years ago is no more than the price of a can of spam now.
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