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But there is a real investigation. It’s happening right now. But remember who is curating which e-mails we see and which we don’t. The DA has a copy, but if he’s doing his job, his office isn’t leaking them. Who else has copies? Rudy Giuliani and Senate Republicans. We’re seeing only the cherry picked e-mails they want us to see.
It took whistleblowers and a congressional subpoena to get the DOJ to release the "What's App," message where Hunter shaking down the Chinese for cash while, "his father," is by his computer in the room with him. On top of that the DOJ refuse to confirm Joe Biden's location to verify Hunter's What's App message. How is this not obstruction of justice?
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Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:42 pm
But there is a real investigation. It’s happening right now. But remember who is curating which e-mails we see and which we don’t. The DA has a copy, but if he’s doing his job, his office isn’t leaking them. Who else has copies? Rudy Giuliani and Senate Republicans. We’re seeing only the cherry picked e-mails they want us to see.
It took whistleblowers and a congressional subpoena to get the DOJ to release the "What's App," message where Hunter shaking down the Chinese for cash while, "his father," is by his computer in the room with him. On top of that the DOJ refuse to confirm Joe Biden's location to verify Hunter's What's App message. How is this not obstruction of justice?
The What’s App message you are referring to was a 100% fraud perpetrated by House Republicans. The photo the committee circulated was a fake. They had to do that because the message wasn’t on the laptop. That’s how What’s App works. They used a photo from years after the date of the message. The text of the message Was obtained from an iCloud account registered to Hunter. But the fraudulent message created by Republicans on the committee didn’t even use the text obtained by the FBI. They used Shapely’s summary of the text, which included his own speculation about who the message was reportedly sent to.

This fabricated post circulated by the committee is the only evidence of fraud it has turned up.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:02 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:42 pm
It took whistleblowers and a congressional subpoena to get the DOJ to release the "What's App," message where Hunter shaking down the Chinese for cash while, "his father," is by his computer in the room with him. On top of that the DOJ refuse to confirm Joe Biden's location to verify Hunter's What's App message. How is this not obstruction of justice?
The What’s App message you are referring to was a 100% fraud perpetrated by House Republicans. The photo the committee circulated was a fake. They had to do that because the message wasn’t on the laptop. That’s how What’s App works. They used a photo from years after the date of the message. The text of the message Was obtained from an iCloud account registered to Hunter. But the fraudulent message created by Republicans on the committee didn’t even use the text obtained by the FBI. They used Shapely’s summary of the text, which included his own speculation about who the message was reportedly sent to.

This fabricated post circulated by the committee is the only evidence of fraud it has turned up.
Which begs the question, to me, just like the Hunter emails that Trump and Republican operatives circulated in the early laptop days that were shown to have been altered:

If the Biden crimes are so obvious and extensive, why the need to perpetually fabricate things?
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:32 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:02 pm
The What’s App message you are referring to was a 100% fraud perpetrated by House Republicans. The photo the committee circulated was a fake. They had to do that because the message wasn’t on the laptop. That’s how What’s App works. They used a photo from years after the date of the message. The text of the message Was obtained from an iCloud account registered to Hunter. But the fraudulent message created by Republicans on the committee didn’t even use the text obtained by the FBI. They used Shapely’s summary of the text, which included his own speculation about who the message was reportedly sent to.

This fabricated post circulated by the committee is the only evidence of fraud it has turned up.
Which begs the question, to me, just like the Hunter emails that Trump and Republican operatives circulated in the early laptop days that were shown to have been altered:

If the Biden crimes are so obvious and extensive, why the need to perpetually fabricate things?
The question answers itself, doesn’t it?
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:02 pm
The What’s App message you are referring to was a 100% fraud perpetrated by House Republicans. The photo the committee circulated was a fake. They had to do that because the message wasn’t on the laptop. That’s how What’s App works. They used a photo from years after the date of the message. The text of the message Was obtained from an iCloud account registered to Hunter. But the fraudulent message created by Republicans on the committee didn’t even use the text obtained by the FBI. They used Shapely’s summary of the text, which included his own speculation about who the message was reportedly sent to.

This fabricated post circulated by the committee is the only evidence of fraud it has turned up.
House Republicans are forced to perpetrate fraud if nobody else is going to. In the closed loop of conservative news, such lies can pass as truths.
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Here is a post by Ken White (Popehat) discussing the hearing on Hunter Biden's plea agreement. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/ ... udge-1.pdf

TL/DR The plea agreement was poorly written, and when the judge questioned the lawyers and Hunter, it was pretty clear that the prosecution and the defense did not agree on what critical parts of the agreement meant. The lawyers involved are all pretty experienced, so it's hard to understand why such a high profile case produced such a sloppy plea agreement.
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Here is a post by Ken White (Popehat) discussing the hearing on Hunter Biden's plea agreement. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/ ... udge-1.pdf

TL/DR The plea agreement was poorly written, and when the judge questioned the lawyers and Hunter, it was pretty clear that the prosecution and the defense did not agree on what critical parts of the agreement meant. The lawyers involved are all pretty experienced, so it's hard to understand why such a high profile case produced such a sloppy plea agreement.
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Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:07 pm
Here is a post by Ken White (Popehat) discussing the hearing on Hunter Biden's plea agreement. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/ ... udge-1.pdf

TL/DR The plea agreement was poorly written, and when the judge questioned the lawyers and Hunter, it was pretty clear that the prosecution and the defense did not agree on what critical parts of the agreement meant. The lawyers involved are all pretty experienced, so it's hard to understand why such a high profile case produced such a sloppy plea agreement.
The judge leans conservative and she caught the DOJ trying to slip indefinite immunity for Hunter into illegal firearm charge of the plea deal. When the DOJ saw they were caught they walked it back saying that they weren't offering immunity. At this point Hunter Biden's lawyers were outraged because they knew the DOJ was lying to try to save face.

It's been interesting re reading this thread and seeing how the left's position has evolved from Doc originally saying that the laptop was a Russian plant, to Pres Biden had no knowledge of Hunter's businesses, to Pres Biden is not formally in business with Hunter Biden, to Joe Biden never spoke with Hunter's foreign business partners in Ukraine, Russia, CCP, Romania, to Joe Biden just talked about the weather while talking with Hunter's foreign bosses.

After the next election it will be, "I'm just a loving father who was trying to help my troubled son. Cocaine and whores are expensive and since Hunter doesn't like practicing law or any other kind of honest labor, he needed the money."

What is most amazing about Joe Biden getting the prosecutor fired is that this is exactly what the Democrats and several RINOs accused Trump of doing in the first impeachment. Now those very same people are all saying this is just politics and it's how things are done in Washington, not just by the Bidens. Nothing to see here, move along.
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Did I say the laptop was a Russian “plant?”
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As a reminder this was my first post on this thread:
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I love how GQP’ers get their behinds thoroughly handed to them, but they declare victory, anyway. They appear to believe that the simple act of saying things is enough to be right. Markk got absolutely reamed on the Russiagate thread, but somehow came away feeling like he somehow won the day.

Hunter Biden’s career of being Joe Biden’s son is a story of failing upwards because he’s connected to Joe Biden through being his son. He got a job with MBNA because he’s Joe Biden’s son - apparently Joe Biden got some friendly bankruptcy laws passed on behalf of MBNA, so Hunter Biden got to have a sweet sinecure and do drugs because that’s what he’s good at doing, besides being Joe Biden’s son.

I guess GWB got Hunter Biden a seat on Amtrak’s board because Hunter Biden was good at riding trains and being Joe Biden’s son. Where are the conspiracy theories surrounding GWB, Hunter Biden, and Big Train, huh? I guess GQP’ers don’t care about cozy connections when a Republican engages in back scratching.

I also guess that at age 42 Hunter Biden got into the Navy, due to being Joe Biden’s son, despite being too old and having snorted enough cocaine to make Tony Montana a little envious. To no one’s surprise he kept inhaling cocaine, and the Navy was forced to discharge him. He received an administrative discharge most likely because he was Joe Biden’s son who snorts cocaine and not Tammy’s son, who was also discharged from the Navy for doing drugs, and who returned to his mother’s trailer in Henpeck, TN to resume a lucrative career in spraying lawns with chemicals. Ah, life, what an adventure.

Joe Biden’s son, who’s entire life has been spent being the poster child of white privilege (this “F” up actually got into Georgetown - and he doesn’t even play basketball! - and then graduated from Yale, YALE, because he’s Joe Biden’s son) was then rewarded with a divorce by his then wife for, you guessed it, snorting cocaine and damned pros. As his nature is to fail upwards he then started dating his dead brother’s widow, presumably because he has a massive penis, and he’s Joe Biden’s son.

This human monument to being someone’s son managed to do all this while being on the board of some relatively obscure gas company where he did nothing and received a lot of money for doing nothing, having established his credentials (Yale grade, MBNA guy, Amtrak board dude extraordinaire, and Big Dick Swinga) until Rudy “are you sucking my junk now or after cocktails” Giuliani along with Steve “burn it all down to the ground” Bannon saw a wonderful opportunity to foment the nutjobs within the GQP’s base with innuendo and spurious gossip. The nutjobs were, of course, more than happy to lap up this nonsense because they’re 1) stupid as all get out, and 2) acutely and painfully insecure about their own stupidity, so instead of admitting that Hunter Biden actually has a wonderfully large member and has simply been blessed with being Joe Biden’s son, they double, triple, and quadruple down on the equivalent of the Earth is Flat argument that Hunter Biden is something something Joe Biden’s shakedown guy.

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And when asked to lay out Joe Biden’s son’s timeline and connections, Markk can’t do it, because he can’t spin silk out of hay. No one can. Hunter Biden’s entire existence is doing drugs, having sex with whores, and getting jobs where he does nothing except being someone else’s son.

That’s it. That’s the extent of everything, and if Joe Biden is guilty of having a son trading off his father’s influence then, man, if I were a Trumper I’d keep my stupid trap shut. They of course can’t do that, keep their mouths shut, because they’re morons who are experts at lying to themselves and others about caring about things like nepotism, corruption, graft, undue influence and whatnot. But, you know. That’s not true. And so here we are. GQP’ers pretending to care about Hunter Biden and working each other into a lather over nothing. Well. Nothing they really care about, anyway.

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