Is Mopologetics Equivalent to a Church Calling?

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Re: Is Mopologetics Equivalent to a Church Calling?

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drumdude wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:08 pm
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:32 pm
I have a hard time believing that DCP is a TBM. Not because he believes in ESP and dowsing, but because of his long and well-documented racism, misogyny, anger, homophobia and the way he treats other people. If he is indeed a TBM, he’s one of the worst I’ve ever seen, and I've seen some really bad ones.

He’s a toxic individual who has harmed countless lives and destroyed numerous relationships/friendships.

In the end, it’s all about the money and recognition for DCP. I think he could care less about the Church, and I think that’s reflected in his words and deeds.
He enjoys being the biggest fish in an extremely tiny pond.

He found his niche.
And his name is not Lewis!
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drumdude wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:08 pm
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:32 pm
I have a hard time believing that DCP is a TBM. Not because he believes in ESP and dowsing, but because of his long and well-documented racism, misogyny, anger, homophobia and the way he treats other people. If he is indeed a TBM, he’s one of the worst I’ve ever seen, and I've seen some really bad ones.

He’s a toxic individual who has harmed countless lives and destroyed numerous relationships/friendships.

In the end, it’s all about the money and recognition for DCP. I think he could care less about the Church, and I think that’s reflected in his words and deeds.
He enjoys being the biggest fish in an extremely tiny pond.

He found his niche.
I think there are many, many Mormon men and women who use the LDS church in this way.
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:04 pm
drumdude wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:08 pm
He enjoys being the biggest fish in an extremely tiny pond.

He found his niche.
I think there are many, many Mormon men and women who use the LDS church in this way.
Yes, even we critics are doing so just with a different emphasis now... :D
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:55 pm
Marcus wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:04 pm
I think there are many, many Mormon men and women who use the LDS church in this way.
Yes, even we critics are doing so just with a different emphasis now... :D
:D And that emphasis makes all the difference, does it not?!!!
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:26 pm
Philo Sofee wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:55 pm
Yes, even we critics are doing so just with a different emphasis now... :D
:D And that emphasis makes all the difference, does it not?!!!
It’s good to be self aware :lol:
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Gadianton wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:22 am
Interesting. How much time per day is really going to Interpreter? Seems to me the bulk of the time is going to travel and fun. It's almost as if Interpreter was devised as a "shield" to avoid a real calling, such that merriment might flow forth uninterrupted.

The crazy thing is if Mopologetic arguments are so great and literally being the most accomplished Mopologist in the world; why wouldn't you want to go on a mission and show everyone how it's done?
I do not know of any reason to begrudge Peterson travel and fun. Makes more sense than gripping about Peterson for eternity.

I am puzzled checking this thread how a suggestion from the authorities being declined by Peterson turns into him rejecting an actual authorities calling. Well obviously to generate accusations.

Why not show how it is doneP Peterson is not dumb he is aware of argument limitations.
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huckelberry wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:44 am
Gadianton wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:22 am
Interesting. How much time per day is really going to Interpreter? Seems to me the bulk of the time is going to travel and fun. It's almost as if Interpreter was devised as a "shield" to avoid a real calling, such that merriment might flow forth uninterrupted.

The crazy thing is if Mopologetic arguments are so great and literally being the most accomplished Mopologist in the world; why wouldn't you want to go on a mission and show everyone how it's done?
I do not know of any reason to begrudge Peterson travel and fun. Makes more sense than gripping about Peterson for eternity.

I am puzzled checking this thread how a suggestion from the authorities being declined by Peterson turns into him rejecting an actual authorities calling...
i think it is more frustration. I have an uncle whose last 15 years were spent, as a service missionary, taking care of an LDS for-profit facility and campground. He died in the service of an LDS church that, in my opinion, took advantage of his willingness to serve god, by using his and his wife's free labor to boost their profits. He died with no money and left nothing for his family, because he gave all to the LDS church.

After my father retired from working for the LDS church and my mother passed away, he and his wife went on several missions where not only did he do exactly the same job from which he had just retired, but his wife also provided full time labor as his staff, AND he paid the LDS church around 3k a month for the privilege. This went on for many years.

The fact that Peterson refuses to do what the average member feels obligated and pressured to do is pretty hurtful. I wish my family had been able to say no more often.
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Marcus wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:48 am
The fact that Peterson refuses to do what the average member feels obligated and pressured to do is pretty hurtful.
I wouldn’t call it “hurtful,” I’d say he’s just smart enough to see through the ruse.
I wish my family had been able to say no more often.
Indeed, but why hold it against him if you wish your family had been able to do exactly what he’s doing?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:33 pm
Marcus wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:48 am
The fact that Peterson refuses to do what the average member feels obligated and pressured to do is pretty hurtful.
I wouldn’t call it “hurtful,” I’d say he’s just smart enough to see through the ruse.
I wish my family had been able to say no more often.
Indeed, but why hold it against him if you wish your family had been able to do exactly what he’s doing?
Sigh. You are again missing the point, and based on your last three or four responses to me, you just want to quibble about stuff for some reason unrelated to the thread topics.
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Re: Is Mopologetics Equivalent to a Church Calling?

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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:33 pm
Marcus wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:48 am
The fact that Peterson refuses to do what the average member feels obligated and pressured to do is pretty hurtful.
I wouldn’t call it “hurtful,” I’d say he’s just smart enough to see through the ruse.
I wish my family had been able to say no more often.
Indeed, but why hold it against him if you wish your family had been able to do exactly what he’s doing?
With all due respect, Dr. Shades— you’re saying that Dr. Peterson actually thinks that the brethren’s directive for older LDS to serve missions is “a ruse”? Like, he thinks the Brethren are full of crap and has no issue with flippantly dismissing their orders?

I can see why you might say that “hurtful” isn’t necessary the best way to describe this behavior, but I’m curious how *you* would characterize it? Especially given what is expected of the average LDS Church member?
"If, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
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