Israel

[Res Ipsa]

with regard to to war crimes on the part of Israel. I was looking at this and that's when/why I posed the question:

https://www.un.org/en/genocidepreventio ... imes.shtml

You're looking at the right stuff. To figure out what the court can and can't do, one has to hack one's way through the Rome Statutes. As I understand it, the body that enforces judgments of the international criminal and civil courts is the UN Security Council. As one of the permanent members, the U.S. can simply veto any attempt by the Security Council to enforce anything against Israel. It's used this veto to protect Israel in past. Same result with Putin, as the USSR is also a permanent member with veto power.

[CTR 3]

with regard to to war crimes on the part of Israel. I was looking at this and that's when/why I posed the question:

https://www.un.org/en/genocidepreventio ... imes.shtml

You're looking at the right stuff. To figure out what the court can and can't do, one has to hack one's way through the Rome Statutes. As I understand it, the body that enforces judgments of the international criminal and civil courts is the UN Security Council. As one of the permanent members, the U.S. can simply veto any attempt by the Security Council to enforce anything against Israel. It's used this veto to protect Israel in past. Same result with Putin, as the USSR is also a permanent member with veto power.

Hamas seems to approve of genocide. Maybe that won’t be resolved by a court.

[Res Ipsa]

You're looking at the right stuff. To figure out what the court can and can't do, one has to hack one's way through the Rome Statutes. As I understand it, the body that enforces judgments of the international criminal and civil courts is the UN Security Council. As one of the permanent members, the U.S. can simply veto any attempt by the Security Council to enforce anything against Israel. It's used this veto to protect Israel in past. Same result with Putin, as the USSR is also a permanent member with veto power.

Hamas seems to approve of genocide. Maybe that won’t be resolved by a court.

Military tribunal, maybe. That's the way it was done with Nazi war criminals.

[Jersey Girl]

So I decided to have another cup of tea to procrastinate on the taping off before I paint because I despise taping. I'm just going to represent my own religious thinking since I think Israel is acting on their deeply held beliefs and there's a lot of Christians with differing takes on what's taking place in Israel and I think I might touch on offering criticism of what I see happening. Not sure. This train of thought might derail. We'll see...so putting my cards on the table.

Please skip it if you don't like it. I'm not here to argue with anyone. Just representing what I think and believe. Then I'll come back and examine it to see if I make sense.

A brief interview with myself...

Do I believe the land was promised and given to Israel by Yahweh?

Yes

Do I believe the land (including it's original borders as described in the Old Testament/Torah) rightfully belongs to Israel?

Yes.

Do I believe there have been times when Yahweh evicted and scattered the Hebrews from Israel in the Old Testament/Torah due to their disobedience?

Yes.

Do I believe Yahweh brought them back to Israel?

Yes.

Do I believe that what Israel is doing right now is in keeping with scripture?

I lean heavy towards saying "no". Knowing that I don't know everything and can't know everything. I think that what they're doing is probably in keeping with part of their own scripture.

Why do I believe what Israel is doing right now is not in keeping with scripture since I believe the land rightfully belongs to Israel?

Because Israel (as a nation of believers regardless of their location) overlooked, misinterpreted, part of their own scriptures.

What part of their own scriptures did Israel overlook and/or misinterpret?

Scripture related to Messianic prophecy.

What difference does it make?

It makes all the difference in the world. It makes all the difference to the world.

How so?

If the Hebrews/Israel had not overlooked or misinterpreted their own scriptures they wouldn't be doing what they're doing now unless it was in their defense and I don't think that what they're doing right now is precisely defense. I think it's ultimately a land grab.

You said the land was rightfully theirs so what's wrong with the land grab?

Because if they had not overlooked or misinterpreted their own scriptures and examined the time frame in which the Messiah was to enter human history, they would have (over time) recognized him and accepted the New Testament. They would have recognized that the land that comprises the Gaza Strip (currently) isn't theirs to take but that the land, including the original promised borders, would be given to them in full after the return of Yeshua their Messiah.

Do you think that God judges Israel for their mistake?

I don't know. I lean towards, a conditional "yes". I can't fully know.

Do you think God is judging Israel for what they are doing right now?

I don't know the answer to that. I lean towards, "probably". But it's not my call to make.

So do you believe all of Israel is going to be condemned to hell for this?

Nope.

You're crazy.

I know. I think I used possibly 2-3 different voices in this. It's a little crowded in here.

Okay. Taping to follow.

[Jersey Girl]

with regard to to war crimes on the part of Israel. I was looking at this and that's when/why I posed the question:

https://www.un.org/en/genocidepreventio ... imes.shtml

You're looking at the right stuff. To figure out what the court can and can't do, one has to hack one's way through the Rome Statutes. As I understand it, the body that enforces judgments of the international criminal and civil courts is the UN Security Council. As one of the permanent members, the U.S. can simply veto any attempt by the Security Council to enforce anything against Israel. It's used this veto to protect Israel in past. Same result with Putin, as the USSR is also a permanent member with veto power.

Well at least I got my primary source correct! I think I knew something about the veto power. It's getting lost in the shuffle of my head in favor of other related tangents.

Thanks for explaining that!

[Vēritās]

I'm more and more convinced religion is the worst thing Humans have come up with. Just listen to ourselves here. Some of us genuinely think an invisible man in the sky shows favoritism towards some of us based on bloodlines, and that he decided to give a certain group of people a sliver of land thousands of years ago because that's our interpretation of a book that was written by mysterious authors no one can identify.

There was no rational reason for Britain to steal that land and give it to the Jews; only a religious one.

And look how that's turned out.

[Jersey Girl]

I'm more and more convinced religion is the worst thing Humans have come up with. Just listen to ourselves here. Some of us genuinely think an invisible man in the sky shows favoritism towards some of us based on bloodlines, and that he decided to give a certain group of people a sliver of land thousands of years ago because that's our interpretation of a book that was written by mysterious authors no one can identify.

There was no rational reason for Britain to steal that land and give it to the Jews; only a religious one.

And look how that's turned out.

Yes. Just listen to ourselves here.

[Vēritās]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svOc4Ki68_U&t=463s

Cornell West being tag teamed by Sean Hannity and Alan Dershowitz.

Hannity does his usual thing trying to slam someone on the Left for something they said out of context. He acts like he is asking in good faith for West to explain what he meant, but then he speaks over him the entire time prohibiting him from doing so.

Then Dershoditz says there is no moral equivalence because Hamas targeted children with the intent of killing them whereas Israel has NEVER done that.

Oh really?

From 9 years ago: Israeli Strike Kills Four Boys Playing on Gaza Beach

Israelis have been killing Palestinians and their children for years, but it never warrants any attention from our media because its taboo to even think about criticizing "God's Chosen People." Stupid ass religious belief clouding and prohibiting true moral behavior. If that's God, then he can “F” off.

It makes me sick to my stomach right now. A million children are at risk of being exterminated by Israel's idiotic, immoral and ungodly mission to seek revenge.

We've jumped the shark here. State Dept memo warns against talking about "de-esclation" because, well, God's chosen people or something.

It seems it is now policy of the US government to endorse genocide.

Israeli President Isaac Herzog said all Gazans were "responsible" for Hamas's surprise attack on Israel at a Friday press conference, the HuffPost news website reported.

He said: "It is not true this rhetoric about civilians not being aware, not involved. It's absolutely not true.

"They could have risen up. They could have fought against that evil regime which took over Gaza in a coup d'état."

This is Israel's President basically saying every single person in Gaza is guilty. This is so damned stupid it is something we'd expect the likes of ajax to say.

[Vēritās]

Written nearly two years ago by Amnesty International:

Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity

Amnesty International has analysed Israel’s intent to create and maintain a system of oppression and domination over Palestinians and examined its key components: territorial fragmentation; segregation and control; dispossession of land and property; and denial of economic and social rights. It has concluded that this system amounts to apartheid. Israel must dismantle this cruel system and the international community must pressure it to do so. All those with jurisdiction over the crimes committed to maintain the system should investigate them.

[Vēritās]

This is what we've become... and I smelled BS the second I heard the claims about 40 beheaded babies. I thought it was weird how no one could produce any video or photographic evidence of this. This one claim is what drove the masses to support Israel's desire for revenge. It seems like a common Right Wing tactic to always lie about the brutality towards babies as a means to a political end.

Israel-Hamas war: How the unverified claim about beheaded babies spread — ‘Same misinformation, different war’

Unverified reports of ‘40 babies beheaded’ in Israel-Hamas war inflame social media