Wow. Way to go showing people how interested you are in what and how they think about the Book of Mormon.
If plates then God
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You’re really not saying anything here.Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:21 amOK. You get an D in reading comprehension. I said those words, but you quoted them out of context. Those words were part of my explanation of why the razor, which you invoked, works the opposite way you claimed.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:56 pm
Essentially that “unless your God is necessary to explain the events being discussed, Occam's Razor should leave God on the cutting room floor.”
Your words.
So, back to the simple question which I don’t believe you’ve answered directly: Do you consider Joseph Smith to be the sole author of the Book of Mormon?
It is this question that I think has a direct connection/correlation with your concerns in regards to evidence for God. Evidence that might cause one pause as they make a conclusive determination that there is no creator God.
Would you be so good as to give an answer that could be understood by a fifth grader?
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So, you’re still not listening. You’re trying to find support for your pre-determined conclusion.
And you’re dodging my question.
You’ve got to do better than Morley. It wouldn’t take much.
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In case I didn't make myself clear, let's say that I saw the plates, witnessed an angel handing them over, and the plates were obviously made of gold encrusted with emeralds and diamonds. The translation provided would still would be bereft of merit as regards history, theology, and literature. That the plates were there wouldn't change the larger reality.
The millions creation-God believers who have been taught by missionaries and still rejected the message will testify to this.
The millions creation-God believers who have been taught by missionaries and still rejected the message will testify to this.
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I’m not dodging. I’m refusing to answer because it’s a stupid game playing that doesn’t indicate any interest in what people actually think. Your disparagement of Morley’s response confirms that you aren’t.
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How's it a dodge? What are these implications?
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Another dodge along with Morley’s. You guys are like the Democrats in Congress. You stick together no matter what and no matter how nonsensical you might sound/be at times.
I think Morley knew he couldn’t honestly answer my question without committing perjury.
I’d like to get a straight answer from him and you.
Honesty is always the best policy.
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Don’t act dumb.
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How about replying?
Morley wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:36 amIn case I didn't make myself clear, let's say that I saw the plates, witnessed an angel handing them over, and the plates were obviously made of gold encrusted with emeralds and diamonds. The translation provided would still would be bereft of merit as regards history, theology, and literature. That the plates were there wouldn't change the larger reality.
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Morley wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:42 amHow about replying?
Morley wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:36 amIn case I didn't make myself clear, let's say that I saw the plates, witnessed an angel handing them over, and the plates were obviously made of gold encrusted with emeralds and diamonds. The translation provided would still would be bereft of merit as regards history, theology, and literature. That the plates were there wouldn't change the larger reality.
The millions creation-God believers who have been taught by missionaries and still rejected the message will testify to this.
You said it didn’t matter. But it does. Especially if Joseph could not have written it on his own. And I’ve already made my case as to why it is unreasonable to think that he did.
So, back to the simple question which I don’t believe you’ve answered directly: Do you consider Joseph Smith to be the sole author of the Book of Mormon?
I don’t want to beat that dead horse.
I do believe you are dodging the question knowing full well the implications.
At this point, along with Res Ipsa, I expect nothing less than stonewalling.
And that wastes both of our time.
Regards,
MG
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