DCP Takes Aim at Everybody Wang Chung

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Re: DCP Takes Aim at Everybody Wang Chung

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Flemming wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:14 am
I showed it was a stupid comment because it’s not at all true. Dan—the primary res desiderata of this board—has posted under his real name for 20 years.
Well, he gives people here attention, so . . . .

Maybe if President Oaks started blogging about this board, it would take the heat off DCP.

In any case, you are not reading closely enough. There are more LDS apologists than DCP, more that we have dealt with here, ones who have taken us to task for being anonymous and then tried to doxx us just to show us how brave, upright, and trustworthy they are.

You wander in out of the blue and talk about things you don’t know about.
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Flemming wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:21 am
That’s up to you to believe. I do not automatically accept every insane statement on the internet by assuming “well, I’m sure they have evidence.”
So what? I really don’t care what you believe. You’re just some rando who has decided to teach everyone a lesson. You are the one who has no cred around here. Why should anyone take you seriously?
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Kishkumen wrote:So what? I really don’t care what you believe. You’re just some rando who has decided to teach everyone a lesson. You are the one who has no cred around here. Why should anyone take you seriously?
I just pointed out a stupid statement. Nothing more. No lessons. No bad feelings at all on my side.
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Flemming wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:27 am
I just pointed out a stupid statement. Nothing more. No lessons. No bad feelings at all on my side.
Sure. Whatever. Yawn.
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Flemming wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:03 am
Tapir Rodeo wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:29 am
If you remain confidential when you criticize Mopologists they call you a coward.

If you reveal your identity they doxx, harass, and try to hurt you in every way they can.

Of course, when they get doxxed it's terrible and if they stay anonymous it's because they want to stay safe.

The Mopologist is the most hypocrical creature I've ever encountered.
That’s a stupid thing to say. Daniel Peterson posts under his own name and has for his whole online career.
Note that Tapir Rodeo DID NOT mention DCP in this post. Flemming brought him up in the reply, and now he wants to criticize people for focusing on DCP.

Tapir Rodeo’s point is valid. LDS apologists have routinely used sock puppets to criticize anonymous critics who post under pseudonyms. Bringing up one apologist who posted under his own name for 20 years is a dumb distraction, especially when he could have posted under pseudonyms and we just don’t know it. After all, he has done so in the past.

I also note the inaccuracy of Lemming’s claim that DCP has posted under his own name “his entire career.”
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Actually, Flemming, you're wrong about the statement being stupid.

I went back to read the interaction, and Tapir was clearly not talking about DCP. He made no indication he was speaking of DCP. There was a recent incident involving an anonymous sycophant of DCP that he was most likely referring to, especially since he's had plenty of interaction with this particular sycophant. Not to mention DCP has praised the sycophant in his anonymous exploits.

Your comment was wrong in a second way. You went on to explain that DCP has posted under his own name for his whole online career, and Everybody Wang Chung showed this isn't correct.

Now, you may try to rescue yourself by claiming DCP has rarely posted anonymously, and in general he's maintained a very high level of visibility and this is true. Saying that he has posted "anonymously" even if true could be misleading, depending on the context. However, the context here is that you jumped into the thread with blazing guns calling someone stupid when you clearly didn't realize that he was absolutely not referring to DCP. That aggressive posture lowers your margin for error as you attempt to make corrections.

You've been owned, Flemming, big time. Take the lesson and move on.
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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:08 am
Actually, Flemming, you're wrong about the statement being stupid.

I went back to read the interaction, and Tapir was clearly not talking about DCP. He made no indication he was speaking of DCP. There was a recent incident involving an anonymous sycophant of DCP that he was most likely referring to, especially since he's had plenty of interaction with this particular sycophant. Not to mention DCP has praised the sycophant in his anonymous exploits.

Your comment was wrong in a second way. You went on to explain that DCP has posted under his own name for his whole online career, and Everybody Wang Chung showed this isn't correct.

Now, you may try to rescue yourself by claiming DCP has rarely posted anonymously, and in general he's maintained a very high level of visibility and this is true. Saying that he has posted "anonymously" even if true could be misleading, depending on the context. However, the context here is that you jumped into the thread with blazing guns calling someone stupid when you clearly didn't realize that he was absolutely not referring to DCP. That aggressive posture lowers your margin for error as you attempt to make corrections.

You've been owned, Flemming, big time. Take the lesson and move on.
What other apologist do the people on this board ever talk about? Showing the master apologist—nay, the kingpin himself—does not post anonymously, severely destroys tapir’s dumb statement. There are no guns blazing here, I pointed out a stupid statement and have more than shown just how stupid it is.

Please note, I have not called anyone stupid.

And yes, Kishkumen, DCP could be posting anonymously without us knowing. He could also be a professional StarCraft player. Where I come from, we avoid arguments from ignorance.

In any case, when I view the MDD board, I see lots of real names, but here almost none. Hmm.
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Flemming wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:14 am
In any case, when I view the MDD board, I see lots of real names, but here almost none. Hmm.
Repeated aloud, this exact phrase works when reviewing Dan’s SeN page, as well.
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Flemming wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:14 am
What other apologist do the people on this board ever talk about?
Mike Parker is a good example of an apologist discussed here recently and posting under a pseudonym. Go back a few pages and check out those threads.

Tapir’s not wrong.
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Flemming wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:14 am
In any case, when I view the MDD board, I see lots of real names, but here almost none. Hmm.
Is "Flemming" your real name?
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