Vogel video on magic parchments and Jupiter talisman

[Shulem]

In the month of October, 1825, I hired with an old gentleman by the name of Josiah Stoal, who lived in Chenango county, State of New York. He had heard something of a silver mine having been opened by the Spaniards in Harmony, Susquehanna county, State of Pennsylvania; and had, previous to my hiring to him, been digging, in order, if possible, to discover the mine. After I went to live with him, he took me, with the rest of his hands, to dig for the silver mine, at which I continued to work for nearly a month, without success in our undertaking, and finally I prevailed with the old gentleman to cease digging after it. Hence arose the very prevalent story of my having been a money-digger.

I wonder what kind of promises Joseph and his looney father made to Mr. Stoal? The bit about Joseph being a "seer" was the sole reason Mr. Stoal hired Joseph in the first place because of his confidence in claims about Joseph's special abilities using seer stones: "Stowell wanted his help because Joseph was reputed by some of his neighbors to be a “seer”—someone who could look into a special stone and find lost or hidden objects" (Church Website). In other words, Joseph assured Mr. Stoal that his abilities were inspired and he had a special gift in which he could find lost items to include buried treasure. Thus, Mr. Stoal was duped by the Smiths and their conniving ways to employ magic via incantations from sources that trace back to Kelley & Dee.

The statement by Smith in Church History is based on a coverup in order to playdown Smith's failed abilities to produce what he claimed he could. Smith was a liar since day one of his career as a false prophet. Poor Mr. Stoal wasted his money on Joseph, a magic seer stone, and his looney father who would become the Patriarch of the new church.

[Shulem]

Out of this earlier episode has now arisen another phenomenon. It is described as the writing of a “new history” of the Church as distinguished from the “old history.” It represents, among other things, an effort to ferret out every element of folk magic and the occult in the environment in which Joseph Smith lived to explain what he did and why.

Yes, we ferret out what you refuse to admit in what was the true origins of Mormonism and how the Smith family practiced folk magic to that extent.

You're a damn liar, Hinkley. You make me sick.

I have no doubt there was folk magic practiced in those days. Without question there were superstitions and the superstitious. I suppose there was some of this in the days when the Savior walked the earth.

Practiced by whom? The Smith family! They were superstitious indeed. Leave Jesus out of it.

Similarly, the fact that there were superstitions among the people in the days of Joseph Smith is no evidence whatever that the Church came of such superstition.

YOU, Hinckley, are a Goddamn liar. Superstitions were among the Smith family and they practiced it through the superstitious "seer stone" and magical parchments. The Church was founded and established on that lying stone. But RIP you lying bastard for the Lord.

[Shulem]

Church historians would provide a valuable service if they came to terms that Smith family magic was practiced in a serious manner and the art of witchcraft was part of that practice in employing seer/peep stones, magical parchments, circles, astrology, conjuring of spirits, etc. The fact is, the Smith's practiced their own form of pious witchcraft regardless of their faith in biblical things. This needs to be stressed and that is exactly what I'm doing -- zero in like a laser and shine a spotlight on what the Smith's were actually doing, WITCHCRAFT using the supposed powers of white magic coupled with good intentions to provide general blessings to all involved.

I love to focus on the intentions and mindset of Joseph Smith in exactly what he may have been thinking and how he plotted to succeed in his ventures to establish a new religion with him as prophet, seer, and revelator. The seer stone coupled with the practice of white magic and witchcraft gave Joseph the experience he needed to fool everyone into believing he was visited by spirits, angels, and even Christ. I trust Dan Vogel shares this opinion too.

Merry Christmas, Joseph Smith!

[Shulem]

art of witchcraft . . . . WITCHCRAFT

Perhaps, YOU disagree and find this too strong of a term and prefer less offensive terminology: folk magic. But, I think the term witchcraft works well in combination with white magic and the art of employing supernatural powers. Intercourse with the devil or an allegiance to dark forces that employ so-called black magic is also a form of witchcraft but the employment of magic in all its forms does not necessarily require association with the devil. I interpret 19th century folk magic as a form of witchcraft using the art of magic in a peculiar variety with methods practiced according to the desires of those who employ magical arts.

Here is Webster's 1828 Dictionary:

MAG'IC, noun [Latin magia; Gr. a philosopher among the Persians.]

1. The art or science of putting into action the power of spirits; or the science of producing wonderful effects by the aid of superhuman beings, or of departed spirits; sorcery; enchantment. [This art or science is now discarded.]

WITCHCRAFT, [witch and craft.]

1. The practices of witches; sorcery; enchantments; intercourse with the devil.

2. Power more than natural.

So, "folk magic" is a form of witchcraft!

[Gadianton]

I more or less agree with your definitions, Shulem. What do you make of the modern-day apologists and their obsession with water witching and out-of-body experiences?

Is there a connection to the practice of magick as employed by Smith?

[Shulem]

I more or less agree with your definitions, Shulem. What do you make of the modern-day apologists and their obsession with water witching and out-of-body experiences?

Is there a connection to the practice of magick as employed by Smith?

Aah, lovely folk magic; practiced by the Smith family in Upstate New York. Water witching is a form of white magic mingled with faith. Out-of-body experiences are real and happen all the time. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Joseph experienced his own out-of-body experiences, perhaps multiple times. Same goes for Smith Sr.!



Here are bits and pieces from The Joseph Smith Papers website, compliments of church scholars that describe folk magic and how it directly relates to white magic and friendly forms of witchcraft that rely on spirits and guardians to assist with their bidding:

• In their search for contact with the divine, the Smiths were susceptible to the folk magic still flourishing in rural America in the early nineteenth century. Harboring the perpetual hope of the poor for quick riches, Joseph Smith Sr. searched for lost treasure, often with the help of Joseph Jr. Like many of their neighbors, the family combined the use of divining rods and seer stones with conventional forms of Christian worship. In his early twenties, Joseph Jr. had to extricate himself from the local band of treasure seekers before he could focus on his calling to translate the Book of Mormon.
• The Smiths and many in their community drew upon long-established traditions of what some scholars have termed folk religion or folk magic; these traditions may help explain the reactions of many Palmyra residents to Joseph Smith’s experiences. Many people in rural New York in Smith’s time believed they could exercise supernatural power—to find buried treasure, for instance—through the use of seer stones or divining rods or through prescribed rituals. In 1826, Joseph Smith and his father both affirmed in court that the younger Smith used a seer stone, and Joseph Smith later acknowledged that he had been employed to seek out treasure before he obtained the gold plates. Some people in Palmyra and the surrounding area understood the news of ancient gold plates in light of a common belief in the reality of buried treasure; for them, the angel of Joseph Smith’s visions seemed similar to the treasure guardians of folk belief. But Smith’s experiences also came at a time when these folk religious beliefs and practices were fading as a result of pressure from both Christian denominations and Enlightenment rationalism. For many in the community, Smith’s treasure digging or magic activities discredited his religious claims.
• Practices commonly associated with what some scholars have termed folk religion or folk magic, such as using seer stones, persisted in North America into the nineteenth century, despite growing Enlightenment-era skepticism. The use of the word “pretending” in the act reflected legal assumptions that such practices were categorically deceptive and fraudulent, regardless of sincere beliefs to the contrary. Based on the complaint, Chenango County justice of the peace Joseph Chamberlin issued a warrant for the arrest of Joseph Smith.

[Shulem]

Mother Lucy Smith inadvertently makes a connection between magic art and witchcraft as being cut from the same cloth. That cloth was also a cloth in which the Smith's were won't to discover treasure or lost items during failed adventures of Smith family treasure digging. In her autobiography, Lucy relates how Willard Chase and his band (club) used "magic art" in an attempt to discover where Joseph had hidden (secreted) the gold plates. This was to be done through the "conjuror" of magic art! All of this is of a very familiar spirit which was exactly the same kind of practice had by Joseph Smith himself. Note how Lucy's language can be tied directly to terminology that Joseph later wrote into his Book of Mormon story about how magic art and witchcraft are in close association as being more or less, one in the same when it comes to treasure or personal possessions insomuch as they might be slippery or hard to keep.

they had sent for a conjuror to come 60 miles to divine the place where the record was deposited by magic art we were apprehensive

...for behold no man could keep that which was his own, for the thieves, and the robbers, and the murderers, and the magic art, and the witchcraft which was in the land.

So, in a manner of speaking, the Smith's were cut from the same kind of cloth which entailed magic art and witchcraft.

[x] Magic Art
[x] Witchcraft
[x] Smith Family Practices

[Shulem]

[x] Magic Art
[x] Witchcraft
[x] Smith Family Practices

I don't wish to mince words but I accuse the Smith's of practicing WITCHCRAFT in a manner and approach in which they were comfortable with -- hence, Magic Art is used by sorcerers of many stripes and varieties. Dan Vogel brings to the forefront how ceremonious MAGIC ART in a manner that today's Mormonism would certainly condemn as something that was entirely within the realms of Satan who influenced the Smith's in their quest for treasure. The Smiths shared a degree of association with those practices and were in possession of physical articles to conjure the magic power of witchcraft!

Neither of the historical sources mentioned the Smiths using either a daggar or a sword although his occult mentor Lumen Walters reportedly used a rusty sword to draw a magic circle around a treasure and in which he sacrificed a rooster. The dagger might be used to frighten evil spirits or for personal protection against those who might want to harm the magician as suggested in the Saint Peter Bind Them Parchment.

Vogel then goes on to discuss animal and blood sacrifices of a black sheep and how Joseph Smith Sr. was involved in that ordinance using a magic circle to showcase the ritual of spilling blood for the sake of finding treasure. So, we see, the apple does not fall too far from the tree and in this case we learn that Joseph Smith Sr. was a senior magician (witch) until such point his son Joseph Jr. took the reigns and introduced Moroni into the equation in which imagined gold plates would provide means for Joseph to produce a book in order to earn a fortune for the family. Joseph Smith's heart was set upon making a fortune and providing means in which his family would have everything they needed. It was ALWAYS about the money.

Magic, Money, and Mormonism went hand in hand!

[Shulem]

Sibley represents Orion's Belt as three (3) eight-spoked asterisks:

Orion’s Belt or Girdle, which are three stars in a rank thus, ❋❋❋,

Thus, I think it's fair to represent those three stars in a crude form of simple circles ◯◯◯ when used cryptically with purpose in simplicity in the design of a symbolic name. I've expressed that multiple times in this thread.

Here is a representation that may have been known to astrologers who were familiar with the cryptic meaning of the Jubanladace name expressed in special magical character used to make his lamen.

Bayer, Uranometria (1661): Orion

[Shulem]

It's reasonable to assume the Smith's were familiar with the written content contained on the magic parchments wherein they invoked those inscriptions with special pleadings in asking God and guardian spirits to assist them in finding lost treasure. Thus, it's reasonable to suppose that Joseph Smith Sr. & Jr. orally repeated those spells in a ritualistic manner with faith and full purpose of heart. Their hearts and minds were fully fixated on the spells that were written on the parchments and they believed God could manifest treasure by applying those occult objects in religious-like rituals.

SMITH FAMILY MAGIC PARCHMENTS

The Smith Family owned three magic parchments that were carried in a bag meant to be worn by the owner. The parchments blend a mixture of Christianity and magical occult symbolism and were probably used as lamens; pendants meant to focus magical energies for a variety of purposes. The existence of these parchments suggest that the Smith family had more than a passing interest in magic. Many of the magic symbols are copied directly out magical texts, including The Magus by Francis Barrett published in 1801, the New and Complete Illustration of Celestial Sciences by Ebenezer Sibly published in 1784, and The Discoverie of Witchcraft by Reginald Scot published in 1584.

• Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah
• Amen Amen and Amen
• Holiness to the Lord

This is mingled with the hope and faith in an angel that has nothing to do with the Bible but was named and created by the likes of occultists beginning with Kelley & Dee. The angel Jubanladace along with his name and lamen is used for occult magic in invoking the power of witchcraft or white magic. This is NOT biblical or sanctioned by Christian teachings as expressed in the New Testament. Clearly, the Smiths were engaging in rituals outside the bounds of Christian theology and were calling upon a spirit that was invented and brought to use by occultists who practiced various magic arts that Joseph Smith later discontinued because he failed to successfully implement and bring to fruition his desire for treasure.

My friends, this is the spirit by which Mormonism came to be. This same spirit and operation is how Joseph Smith invented and developed his new religion. The spirit (angel) of Jubanladace was replaced with Moroni and the spirit of the occult is what brought Mormonism into existence.