Of course there is a political calculation in politics. What kind of truth bomb do you imagine you are dropping here? At the same time, Trump is a threat to democracy. If you see no evidence for that in all of his authoritarian posturing and behavior, then I don’t know what to say to you. You obviously refuse to accept reality, heaven knows why.
Yet Trump left office in Jan 2021 like he was supposed to do.
He left office largely due to the strength of the institutions of our democracy. Institutions he and others have spent the last four years seeking to further undermine and weaken.
Nah. The introduction of the presidential pardon is the first step down the road to the Republic’s end. You can’t hand out preemptive pardons for presidents who break the law. The expectation that the pardon is the only consequence a president who attacks the system itself will face means there is nothing to stop the overthrow of the system. The other side of the coin is to say that anyone should have the right to assassinate a president who aims at tyranny. If we don’t want that, then we should not normalize presidential pardons. Equality under the law is the way.
These cases were brought based on political calculations, not on any real threat to democracy.
The fake electors schemes and the attack on the Capital are hardly partisan issues. They are fundamental threats to the system itself. If you wish to declare yourself as opposed to the systems of government as I suspect is the case, by all means. But don't confuse the legal actions against the failed coup attempt to be partisanship which is what you imply in your use of the word political above.
Yet Trump left office in Jan 2021 like he was supposed to do.
He left office largely due to the strength of the institutions of our democracy. Institutions he and others have spent the last four years seeking to further undermine and weaken.
You confuse his incompetence with lack of intent.
Exactly. It blows my mind how people don't understand this. He's stated his intent numerous times. In 2016 he made the mistake of appointing sane people to positions that could control his unhinged appetites for power and that is the only reason he wasn't successful. But as the saying goes, a coupe attempt that goes unpunished becomes nothing more than a training exercise. This time around he won't have people like Pence, Barr, and the dozen others who resigned due to his incompetence. This time around you expect election deniers like the puppy killer, Stephen Miller the Nazi, hell he might even appoint a dozen of his online sycophants like the "my pillow" guy. He'll likely make the surgeon general some whackadoodle anti-vaxxer. His intent isn't to appoint people who know about things, his intent is to appoint people who kiss his ass and swear absolute loyalty to him above all else. If that is the type of government we have to look forward to, do you really think Trump isn't going to take advantage of unfettered power? He even has the Supreme Court he crafted, entertaining the question as to whether a President has immunity for life from all crimes and one of his puppets on the court was just busted waving an "stolen election" flag and another has been busted for being a paid stooge of Right Wing billionaires.
Unfortunately Trump might win the election only because there are naïve people duped by the same media narratives propagated by Exiled.
"Oh stop pretending Trump is a danger to Democracy, he didn't destroy it the first time did he?"
"I am not an American ... In my view premarital sex should be illegal ...(there are) mentally challenged people with special needs like myself- Ajax18
Trump didn't give a damn what his wife thought. He has no morals. He paid off the porn star to help his election chances.
Should he sue her for not upholding her end of the deal?
I think he did do that. Stormy had to admit that she is delinquent in her payment. She never intends to pay Trump's legal bills as ordered by the judge.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
He's charged with paying off a pornstar to not disclose his infidelity to his wife. That has nothing to do with election fraud. Even if he did seek to overturn the election, making up scurrilous felony charges in a partisan venue about something unrelated is a disgrace to the justice system for which the public is right to distrust as an institution. Their bad reputation is well earned. You've wanted Trump banned from running for president because you don't like his agenda, an agenda embraced by a large portion of the country that you would like to simply tyrannically disenfranchise. Don't call that saving democracy. That's saving left wing power and authority that you would otherwise lose due to the terrible economic and global situation for the American people created by your left wing policies put into action unchecked.
He paid off the porn star because he believed that knowledge of his tryst with her after the Access Hollywood tape would sink his campaign. He sought to hide the transaction to boot. So, you are once again wrong.
I think Trump should be banned from running for office. Any candidate who fomented an insurrection ought to be. If seeking to destroy Constitutional government is not disqualifying, then anyone could conceivably take over and install themselves as dictator.
Trump ordered the protesters to be peaceful. It's in his speech. Why don't you let the voters decide if Trump should be president? Yes, that's right, because like Ralph Nadler, you believe that the voters cannot be trusted? How democratic is that on your part? You don't want to save democracy. You want an authoritarian left wing dictatorship, immune from elections to check their terrible policy that they refuse to change regardless of what it has done to the American people and our economy.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Trump is being prosecuted because there is sufficient evidence that he committed multiple crimes. He's been indicted by at least three different grand juries.
In blue states, blue inner cities, with partisan left wing judges, juries, and prosecutors.
So now, Trump has appointed a left-wing judge, whose courtroom is located in a state that has voted for him, representing a district of states that largely voted for him... which are all somehow blue.
Goodness, that deep state is sure rascally. Trump is now a member of it.
Trump ordered the protesters to be peaceful. It's in his speech.
This is a lie. He didn't "order" anyone to do anything unless you're talking about the Proud Boys to, "stand down and stand by." The "peaceful" comment you allude to was with respect to walking to the Capitol, and idiots like you keep trying to make this the defining comment that somehow negates weeks of violent rhetoric. In the same speech he told them to "fight like hell" if they want to save their country which is why those at the front of the lines illegally tore down barriers to Capitol grounds and engaged in violence. Trump then watched them on FOX News for 3 hours trying to kill his VP and he sat by and did nothing, just saying the VP deserved it. So GTFOOH with this "he ordered peace" nonsense.
His minions said "trial by combat." Bannon and others went on the air to declare a civil war. Hundreds of people were armed and Trump ordered the MAGS to be removed because he knew they were armed.
Why don't you let the voters decide if Trump should be president?
A hilarious comment given the fact that 1. the American voters already made it clear they didn't want him in 2020 and 2. you would never accept the results anyway because you'll just whine about fraud.
"I am not an American ... In my view premarital sex should be illegal ...(there are) mentally challenged people with special needs like myself- Ajax18
Why don't you let the voters decide if Trump should be president?
If "the voters" refers to ordinary American people who put a cross next to Trump's name on the ballot paper, you know very well that more of them voted for Clinton than voted for Trump (65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%)). And when Trump faced Biden, more voted for Biden than for Trump.
What decided the election in Trump's favour when he ran against Clinton was not "the voters" in the normal sense of the term. It was the electoral college system, which gives completely disproportionate weight to voters in small states. Had the decision been left to "the voters" rather than to the college, Trump would not have been president. He has never won a majority of "the voters".
This autumn, we may once more see Trump rejected by "the voters", but put into office by the college, despite that being against the popular will. But if that happens, ajax will be just fine about that, amirite?
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
Why don't you let the voters decide if Trump should be president?
If "the voters" refers to ordinary American people who put a cross next to Trump's name on the ballot paper, you know very well that more of them voted for Clinton than voted for Trump (65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%)). And when Trump faced Biden, more voted for Biden than for Trump.
What decided the election in Trump's favour when he ran against Clinton was not "the voters" in the normal sense of the term. It was the electoral college system, which gives completely disproportionate weight to voters in small states. Had the decision been left to "the voters" rather than to the college, Trump would not have been president. He has never won a majority of "the voters".
This autumn, we may once more see Trump rejected by "the voters", but put into office by the college, despite that being against the popular will. But if that happens, ajax will be just fine about that, amirite?
Well yes. This electoral college was ratified after being secured with the blood, work, and treasure of my ancestors. I'm a Viginian. Even then we didn't want New York choosing our President every four years.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
This electoral college was ratified after being secured with the blood, work, and treasure of my ancestors. I'm a Viginian. Even then we didn't want New York choosing our President every four years.
You can probably imagine that New Yorkers with a similar commitment don’t necessarily fancy Virginians choosing the Empire State’s President every four years.
