Do the Alitos want to send Gays back to the closet?

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Watching the new recently on those secret recordings of Justice Alito and his wife, it seems it will be the nonbelievers in religion who might experience persecution. When Martha spoke about the gay flag flying for the month she felt "vergogna" which I understand is Italian for "shame." Justice Thomas has been said to mention that the court might now attend to the issue of birth control and gay marriage. Where are the conservative libertarians? Martha Alito, it seems, wants to punish the media and is still holding a grudge over some reports about her standards of dress. Never, never attack a woman about her clothing. One of the tasks of Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda minister, was to close media outlets they did not like. Putin has done it in Russia. Will Trump, if elected, start to attack the rights of CNN, CNBC and the "failing" New York Times? (Trump's words.) I feel like the US is going back to the dark ages. Those MAGA folks have plenty of guns and will act. Scare blacks when lining up to vote.
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I don't know if they want to or not. Probably.

My takeaway from all this is not, "What are we going to do about Christian Nationalism?" (which is certainly a big damned problem). My takeaway is, "How the “F” are we going to bring sanity back to the Supreme Court?" The conservatives on the court are wackadoodle.
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We should be greatly alarmed by the fact that the Supreme Court seems likely dominated by extremely doctrinaire religious fanatics. That they happen to be Christian makes no difference. Christian fanaticism has often historically proven to be every bit as irrational, evil, and inhumane as any other brand of religious fanaticism, or, for that matter, non-religious fanaticism.
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hauslern wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:55 am
Watching the new recently on those secret recordings of Justice Alito and his wife, . . .
I assume you mean "videos?" Do you have a link?
Where are the conservative libertarians?
You mean, on the court? There aren't any, to my knowledge.
Martha Alito, it seems, wants to punish the media and is still holding a grudge over some reports about her standards of dress. Never, never attack a woman about her clothing. One of the tasks of Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda minister, was to close media outlets they did not like.
Then it's a good thing Martha Alito doesn't wield the power that Joseph Goebbels did, isn't it?
Putin has done it in Russia.
Then it's a good thing Martha Alito doesn't wield the power that Putin does in Russia, isn't it?
Will Trump, if elected, start to attack the rights of CNN, CNBC and the "failing" New York Times? (Trump's words.)
If by "attack" you mean "criticize," then yes. But it'll be those institutions, not their rights.
I feel like the US is going back to the dark ages.
Then make sure you are among the sane ones.
Those MAGA folks have plenty of guns and will act.
No they won't.
Scare blacks when lining up to vote.
Umm, no. That's beyond paranoid.
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Dr. Shades wrote:If by "attack" you mean "criticize," then yes. But it'll be those institutions, not their rights.
This is an open question. Trump himself may have a go at it but his supporters absolutely will try. Will his mass of better coordinated supporters succeed to strip away freedom of the press? I think not, but I give it 10% odds.
Dr. Shades wrote:No they won't.
This part is correct. MAGA will not attempt to take power with guns. There are a myriad of reasons why, but the most fundamental reason is that they are a bunch of losers who can't shoot, and don't have the discipline nor the ability to coordinate themselves.

There is a group of Trump pastors called the Black Robes, and/or the Gideon 300 (I'm not certain of the overlap) who supposedly wear black robes (they haven't been when talking about it on YouTube) who wear military uniforms underneath, and stand by for Trump's orders. But you pick up on little things, dishonorable discharges and the like from the real military, and it's hard to believe so many of them would have the ability to submit to a commanding officer no matter who it is. LARPing is easy.
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Gadianton wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:12 pm
There is a group of Trump pastors called the Black Robes, and/or the Gideon 300 (I'm not certain of the overlap) who supposedly wear black robes (they haven't been when talking about it on YouTube) who wear military uniforms underneath, and stand by for Trump's orders.
??? That’s your attempt at a Moksha-caliber “joke,” right? There’s no POSSIBLE way you’re serious with that statement.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:22 pm
The conservatives on the court are wackadoodle.
Alito and Thomas need to be removed from Supreme Court.
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This is the second time I have warranted "Shades" attention. I think I will just shut my mouth down or my key strokes. Being a touchy introvert, I asked someone about Shades and they said, "Shades I wouldn’t worry about. He can be prickly and odd at times." Sorry for the prickles, Shades. As Dan Peterson likes to say, his blog is his domain.
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hauslern wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:45 pm
This is the second time I have warranted "Shades" attention. I think I will just shut my mouth down or my key strokes. Being a touchy introvert, I asked someone about Shades and they said, "Shades I wouldn’t worry about. He can be prickly and odd at times." Sorry for the prickles, Shades. As Dan Peterson likes to say, his blog is his domain.
Do as you see fit, but 99.9% of the "prickles" in this case could be fixed by a small amount of punctuation. If you think you can bring yourself to put a comma after "introvert," "said," or after "like to say", it could lower tensions by a DEFCON level or two.
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