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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:05 am
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The Camp David Accords took 13 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Davi ... ber%201978.
Yes they did...in 1978. Before Zoom meetings existed. :roll:

Are you not aware how world leaders communicate in 2024?

You are missing the obvious fact that there would indeed be post-diplomatic effort preliminary meetings via Zoom meetings and conferences leading up to the actual signing of a treaty.

I'm no genius and even I know that. We've seen evidence of this repeatedly.
Wars are not ended today with an agreement by Zoom. Do you think Treaties today are signed electronically? Do you think the representatives of Israel and Hamas are meeting by Zoom?
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I am sure you watched the debate (no editing - no trickery - no teleprompters) - Did that concern you at all?
Hell yes it did! It was panic inducing! But panic is not evidence. A video is not a medical diagnosis.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:30 am
Hell yes it did! It was panic inducing!
Thanks for answering. I had a very similar reaction.
But panic is not evidence.
It seems to be evidence of panic and that strikes me as rather significant - After all, we aren't talking about our elderly neighbor here, we are talking about the President of our country.
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yellowstone123 wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:29 am
Jersey Girl wrote:
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Yes they did...in 1978. Before Zoom meetings existed. :roll:

Are you not aware how world leaders communicate in 2024?

You are missing the obvious fact that there would indeed be post-diplomatic effort preliminary meetings via Zoom meetings and conferences leading up to the actual signing of a treaty.

I'm no genius and even I know that. We've seen evidence of this repeatedly.
Wars are not ended today with an agreement by Zoom. Do you think Treaties today are signed electronically. Do you think the representatives of Israel and Hamas are meeting by Zoom?
No, I don't and I didn't say that. This is what I actually said.
You are missing the obvious fact that there would indeed be post-diplomatic effort preliminary meetings via Zoom meetings and conferences leading up to the actual signing of a treaty.
My writing isn't that crappy, yellow. It shouldn't be that hard to understand.
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Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:38 am
It seems to be evidence of panic and that strikes me as rather significant - After all, we aren't talking about our elderly neighbor here, we are talking about the President of our country.
Consider this:
Reagan's doctors said much the same thing while he was in office despite the former president's memory lapses and bouts of confusion in public, most visibly during the 1984 presidential debates and his 1990 Iran-Contra testimony. Incidents such as these led to speculation that he was undergoing a gradual mental decline that those around him didn't want to admit. A 1987 article in the New Republic posed the troubling question outright: "Is Reagan Senile?"

That was precisely what CBS News reporter Lesley Stahl was asking herself during a 1986 visit with a president she would later describe in her 2000 memoir, Reporting Live, as "shriveled" and verging on catatonic.

"Reagan didn't seem to know who I was," she wrote. "He gave me a distant look with those milky eyes and shook my hand weakly. Oh, my, he's gonzo, I thought." But a few minutes later, he snapped out of it and from that point on seemed perfectly fine. When asked, White House aides admitted to Stahl that they had witnessed similar episodes.

Even Reagan's own son, Ron, sensed something was wrong at the time. He wrote in his 2011 book, My Father at 100: A Memoir, that he first became concerned that "something beyond mellowing" was afflicting his father three years into Reagan's first term. Of the latter's bumbling debate performance against Walter Mondale in 1984, the younger Reagan observed:

At 73, Ronald Reagan would be the oldest president ever re-elected. Some voters were beginning to imagine grandpa — who can never find his reading glasses — in charge of a bristling nuclear arsenal, and it was making them nervous. Worse, my father now seemed to be giving them legitimate reason for concern. My heart sank as he floundered his way through his responses, fumbling with his notes, uncharacteristically lost for words. He looked tired and bewildered.

But Ron Reagan isn't a physician, much less one trained to diagnose the symptoms of Alzheimer's Disease. His half-brother Michael Reagan vehemently disagreed with Ron's armchair diagnosis and accused him of trying to "sell out his father to sell books."

Ron later softened his claims in remarks to the New York Times, insisting he never meant to say his father was suffering from dementia while still in office, but rather that the disease was "likely present in him" long before it was diagnosed. Experts say physiological and neurological changes linked to Alzheimer's start showing up in the brain years before outward symptoms appear.

However, the physicians who directly attended Ronald Reagan while he was president agreed unanimously that he never displayed signs or symptoms of dementia the whole time he was in office,
There seems to be some evidence that Reagan was not tip-top cognitively. This was seen in his debate with Mondale. People in the White House saw him having episodes of apparent unawareness. Yet he was not diagnosed with Alzheimers until some five years after he left the White House.

He was the president too. The world did not come crashing down. I bet Reagan was and Biden is experiencing age-related cognitive decline, but I also bet that Reagan did his job and Biden will do his job (as well or better than Reagan did).

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ronal ... s-disease/
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:50 am
yellowstone123 wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:29 am
Wars are not ended today with an agreement by Zoom. Do you think Treaties today are signed electronically. Do you think the representatives of Israel and Hamas are meeting by Zoom?
No, I don't and I didn't say that. This is what I actually said.
You are missing the obvious fact that there would indeed be post-diplomatic effort preliminary meetings via Zoom meetings and conferences leading up to the actual signing of a treaty.
My writing isn't that crappy, yellow. It shouldn't be that hard to understand.
I missed preliminary meetings prior to the treaty signing which is fine on a treaty regarding NAFTA but not War.
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If Trump were to have sex with a goat on 5th Ave, no true Republican would bat an eye.
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Reddit:

Fox News posts 40 articles in 3 days urging Democrats to remove Biden from the race. Why are Republicans so desperately begging for Biden to quit?

1.https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/biden ... olt-july-2

2.https://www.foxnews.com/politics/majori ... solid-poll

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How sweet.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:30 pm
Reddit:

Fox News posts 40 articles in 3 days urging Democrats to remove Biden from the race. Why are Republicans so desperately begging for Biden to quit?
Because it will divide the rival party at both the political and grassroots levels and they hope to pick up crossover voters by making the DP look weaker than their candidate. Because chaos making is their only hope. And they learned it from their Dear Leader.

Did I get close?
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