Biden needs to step aside

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ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:18 pm
Chap wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:31 pm
Maybe the journalists I am used to come out of a different box? But although I do sometimes sympathise with a politician who does not bother answering a clearly stupid or malevolent question, I find myself more often watching or listening to encounters where a journalist is asking a probing but perfectly legitimate question that I would like to have answered, and the politician is trying to avoid having to answer it.
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I didn't say what you have me quoted saying.

While I do agree with the quote, I wouldn't want to take the credit away from the actual author, Kish.
Sorry - I should have noticed that, but (rarely for me) I posted with previewing.
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ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:21 pm
His secret is that he does not like Trump. Really doesn't like Trump! Once you have that going for you, you can say almost anything without being labeled. It's the free pass for everything forever.
My view of Trump is not a matter of personal dislike. Since I shall never move in circles where I am likely to interact with him personally, that issue does not arise.

On the other hand, after having paid attention to his words and actions from the time he first stood for President up to the present, I am convinced that his ignorance, absence of the capacity for coherent rational thought, his amorality and his lack of interest in what happens to anybody apart from himself, taken together, make him an entirely unsuitable and indeed dangerous candidate for re-election as the US chief executive and commander in chief.
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ceeboo wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:21 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:55 pm
And when I say the same thing, I'm called a conspiracy theorist.

What's your secret?
His secret is that he does not like Trump. Really doesn't like Trump! Once you have that going for you, you can say almost anything without being labeled. It's the free pass for everything forever.
The process applies to vaccines and masks and closing parks and preschools. The label is basically a “not my team” catch-all.
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canpakes wrote:
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Does 2025 mention an insurrection in 2025 or later than 2025 because 2025 might be too late for the 2025 insurrection?
I don’t think so, but it may be because the 2021 insurrection was poorly executed, and the P2025 team is still working out a better plan for the next one. Maybe they can dress Laura Loomer up in the Shaman headgear this time; she would definitely be scarier looking than the bald ex-hipster guy.
We’ve arrived.
Trump allies at Heritage declare 2024 election illegitimate in advance

A “war game” presented at the right-wing foundation imagined far-fetched scenarios for election interference to justify preemptive measures.
By Isaac Arnsdorf
July 11, 2024 at 9:12 p.m. EDT

Barbra Streisand kidnapped by Hamas. Antifa-BLM protesters taking over a migrant detention facility. The FBI arresting Donald Trump two days after winning the election.

These were among the far-fetched scenarios imagined by a simulation of threats to the 2024 election showcased Thursday by the right-wing Heritage Foundation. The presentation, delivered at the foundation’s Washington headquarters, stated as a given that the Biden administration was already engaged in a sweeping conspiracy to use multiple forms of federal power to influence the presidential election. It did not supply any evidence.

“As things stand right now, there’s a zero percent chance of a free and fair election,” said Mike Howell, executive director of Heritage’s Oversight Project. “I’m formally accusing the Biden administration of creating the conditions that most reasonable policymakers and officials cannot in good conscience certify an election.”

The report said a key finding was that the sitting president is the greatest danger to the peaceful transition of power, with no mention of Trump’s efforts to overturn his 2020 loss. Instead it offered that conclusion as justification for doubting the outcome of the 2024 election and trying to reject anything other than a Trump victory. Trump himself has repeatedly declined to say he will accept the results or rule out a violent response. He has told his supporters that he can only lose through cheating.

Story continues at: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -war-game/
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These people are completely out of touch with reality. And these are the kind of lunatics who would surround Trump in a second term. The handful of competent people in his first administration were the ones who, in his eyes, betrayed him, because they had a sense of duty to the Constitution. This time he will choose only the people who are so hopped up on their own paranoid fantasies that they can justify any attack on the Constitution as a reaction against their evil bogeymen.

Even if, as Binger and Ceeboo are claiming in the other thread, Biden were too mentally unwell to make decisions (which I do not believe to be the case), I'd rather the decisions be made by a random nobody inside his administration than by anyone Trump would hire in 2025.
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Manetho wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:54 pm
These people are completely out of touch with reality. And these are the kind of lunatics who would surround Trump in a second term. The handful of competent people in his first administration were the ones who, in his eyes, betrayed him, because they had a sense of duty to the Constitution. This time he will choose only the people who are so hopped up on their own paranoid fantasies that they can justify any attack on the Constitution as a reaction against their evil bogeymen.

Even if, as Binger and Ceeboo are claiming in the other thread, Biden were too mentally unwell to make decisions (which I do not believe to be the case), I'd rather the decisions be made by a random nobody inside his administration than by anyone Trump would hire in 2025.
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Manetho wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:54 pm
Even if, as Binger and Ceeboo are claiming in the other thread, Biden were too mentally unwell to make decisions (which I do not believe to be the case), I'd rather the decisions be made by a random nobody inside his administration than by anyone Trump would hire in 2025.
This is the thing.

Plenty of voters figure that even if Biden goes Full Veggie during term 2 - leaving Kamala or whomever at the controls to make decisions - then that’s still a safer bet, as regards having to later ‘fix’ anything that they could screw up.

The situation differs with Trump and his band of paranoid sycophants and bedroom-preoccupied Christian nationalists.

For lack of a better way to put it, it’ll be easier to ‘un****’ a temporary VeggieWorld than a now-locked-in-for-the-next-three-decades of bureaucratic and judicial Trumpocracy.

I was preaching this in 2016 with regard to the Supreme Court, but most non-Republicans I knew just weren’t too concerned at the time.
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Manetho wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:54 pm
Even if, as Binger and Ceeboo are claiming in the other thread, Biden were too mentally unwell to make decisions (which I do not believe to be the case), I'd rather the decisions be made by a random nobody inside his administration than by anyone Trump would hire in 2025.
Do you think that there might be something in play here that is more important than your personal preference?

This "random nobody" that you speak of - has this person been elected by the people to make decisions? Or are you saying that you have authorized this person, on behalf of all Americans, to make this decision?

If Biden were too mentally unwell to perform his job, instead of your personal preference of a random nobody, I think we should consider the VP Harris stepping in. After all, there might be a very significant process that ought to be followed that would place Harris in that vacancy.

Just a thought.
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ceeboo wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 1:02 am
Manetho wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:54 pm
Even if, as Binger and Ceeboo are claiming in the other thread, Biden were too mentally unwell to make decisions (which I do not believe to be the case), I'd rather the decisions be made by a random nobody inside his administration than by anyone Trump would hire in 2025.
Do you think that there might be something in play here that is more important than your personal preference?
I'm sure he does, ceeboo. I'm sure we all do. We express those preferences, nonetheless.
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Someone just took a freaking blow torch to Trump. Guess who? 8-)

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