Assassination Attempt - Secret Service - DEI

[Res Ipsa]

Does the SS have a policy that wants 30 percent of their SS agents to be female by 2030? If yes, do you believe that this would be evidence? If yes, do you believe that it's legitimate to look into possible impacts that such a policy may or may not have on the duties and responsibilities of the agency?

I think that the unsubstantiated assertion that this policy has had a negative impact needs to be substantiated first. Plenty of people on this thread have offered good reasons for doubting the assertion that this DEI policy is in any way responsible for Trump getting shot on the ear.

I would say that the most reasonable conclusion to draw here is that law enforcement and the Secret Service did not pay adequate attention to warnings that the gunman was present and climbing on top of a building. I don't think solving that problem requires male-only agents.

I think that’s right. The entire point of Ms. Megan’s “just asking questions” strategy is to leverage the assassination attempt into an existing political anti-DEI movement.

[Morley]

What do you think I'm implying?

Morley, I am getting bored.

I never suggested anything about two people that have the same qualification. I want to know if DEI policy is selecting less qualified people based on things that should not be being considered for the position. I don't know if this is the case, but I would like to find out. If I find out it is the case, I would be VERY concerned and I would be in support of rejecting such a policy. Immediately.

You're accusing me of implying something and then are unwilling to say what you think I'm suggesting. When I ask what you mean, you claim boredom.

I'm saying that my understanding of DEI hiring practices is that, in part, if two applicants have the same qualifications, that the underrepresented minority should be hired. Do you think that's bad policy?

[Some Schmo]

You were giving me crap yesterday for not doing a google search to fact check the Trump quote, ceeboo, and now your here asking people to do your homework on DEI.

This is exactly the kind of thing that makes you seem dishonest. You don't really seem interested in how DEI works. You seem interested in getting everyone here to be suspicious to share your ignorance-based fear about it.

Maybe go learn about it from people who aren't biased against it, then you can speak honestly about it.

[Doctor Steuss]

I think that’s right. The entire point of Ms. Megan’s “just asking questions” strategy is to leverage the assassination attempt into an existing political anti-DEI movement.

As a random aside, I learned a few weeks back that there is a term for this. Somewhat unsavory, but I think it captures really well the format that people like Joe Rogan have helped make commonplace and mainstream.

From Rational Wiki - "JAQing off."

[Morley]

I think that’s right. The entire point of Ms. Megan’s “just asking questions” strategy is to leverage the assassination attempt into an existing political anti-DEI movement.

As a random aside, I learned a few weeks back that there is a term for this. Somewhat unsavory, but I think it captures really well the format that people like Joe Rogan have helped make commonplace and mainstream.

From Rational Wiki - "JAQing off."

Wow. I both love this and am slightly disgusted.

[Some Schmo]

I think that’s right. The entire point of Ms. Megan’s “just asking questions” strategy is to leverage the assassination attempt into an existing political anti-DEI movement.

As a random aside, I learned a few weeks back that there is a term for this. Somewhat unsavory, but I think it captures really well the format that people like Joe Rogan have helped make commonplace and mainstream.

From Rational Wiki - "JAQing off."

Man, that's a good coinage. What a perfect encapsulation of the activity.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

DEI…

Well, the asshole on stage is a white male.

The shooter was a white male. Despicable.

The officer who was hoisted to the roof and failed to engage the shooter was male. Coward.

Police that were stationed inside the building upon which the shooter climbed were male. damned clowns.

And we’re worried about an agent damned with her glasses WHILE Trump held them up because he was worried about his shoes?!? Funnily you can see the lifts in his shoes fly out and land on the grass, lol.

Oh noes, DEI!

- Doc

As a reminder the Secret Service was primarily, if not totally, composed of men for all prior Presidential assassinations. White men if we’re being specific. So.. you know. There it is.

- Doc

[Dwight]

Ceeboo said he wanted to raise sexism and racist concerns without being labeled someone who is wondering about minorities might not be up to the job the same as white guys.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but as I recall JFK and Reagan both got shot being guarded by white males. The white males guarding Trump did a crap job too. Maybe we shouldn’t just assume white males are the ideal secret service agent.

Anecdotally I served in a ward with two Secret Service agents. One was the big lumbering giant, the other a smaller Latino guy. 9 out of 10 times I would choose the Latino guy. Maybe the white guy was bigger and better on the job, but the Latino guy that I was several inches taller seemed more agile and situationally aware. White guy was protection services the Latino was more on the financial crimes and implied that he was not an office guy so much as someone involved in raids and search warrants.

[ceeboo]

Ceeboo said he wanted to raise sexism and racist concerns without being labeled someone who is wondering about minorities might not be up to the job the same as white guys.

Yep, that is exactly what Ceeboo said. Ceeboo is definitely a white supremacist!

Ceeboo is also a fascist, a Nazi, a Russian agent, a traitor, and an existential threat to democracy!

Correct me if I’m wrong, but as I recall JFK and Reagan both got shot being guarded by white males. The white males guarding Trump did a crap job too. Maybe we shouldn’t just assume white males are the ideal secret service agent.

No correction needed, you are spot on - Ideal SS agents are white males.

Anecdotally I served in a ward with two Secret Service agents. One was the big lumbering giant, the other a smaller Latino guy. 9 out of 10 times I would choose the Latino guy.

I would never choose anyone who is Latino. White males only! I would choose the white guy 10 out of 10 times.

Maybe the white guy was bigger and better on the job, but the Latino guy that I was several inches taller seemed more agile and situationally aware.

Obviously the white guy was better, he is white!

White guy was protection services the Latino was more on the financial crimes

You don't even see the connection do you? White guy = protector and Latino guy = criminal. Duh!

[Kishkumen]

If I may break in here, I think ceeboo is saying lowering standards in the interest of meeting hiring quotas is the concern, not whether a person is a particular color or gender.