Book of Mormon Geography

[yellowstone123]

I still go with upstate NY with 1/3 describing that area with the names of towns and 2/3rds describing someplace else. It's like Evelyn Waugh did in creating Anthony Blanche combining Brian Howard and Harold Acton at Oxford in the 1920's. I believe it was Brian Howard who when addressing someone would began with, "My Dear" where Harold Acton sat on a balcony and serenaded the boat crews with T.S Elliot's, The Waste Land. That describes Anthony Blanche at Oxford in the novel Brideshead Revisited.

https://olderevelyn.org.uk/styled-55/

And to say Bountiful can only be in these surroundings doesn't add up since it's something that evolved in Joseph Smith Jr's mind.

If you want a strip of land between two bodies of water how about Ancient Rome and Aternum as Bountiful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aternum

https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/e/ ... o/5d*.html

[Shulem]

Fry-Jefferson Map of Virginia

Maps, like this one of VA over the fireplace mantle in the Virginia Period Room, often decorated walls in homes during the 1700s and early 1800s. Maps could be framed, but more commonly they were attached to wood rollers and hung from small brass rings. People most often hung maps in public spaces like a hallway, parlor, or dining room. [ This is the Fry-Jefferson Map of Virginia first published in 1753 - this Jefferson was Thomas Jefferson's father.]

This information was copied from the Allen County INGenWeb Project at https://www.acgsi.org/genweb/county/map ... diana.html [Be sure to include your Access Date for proper citation purposes]

Joseph Smith's Book of Mormon geography at Delmarva:

[Shulem]

Yes, young Joseph always had his eyes on Indian territory within the regions of North America and more especially in his neck of the woods beginning at Cumorah in New York where the gold plates where buried. And in order to get those plates to Cumorah it was convenient to look due south towards the coast -- Delmarva! That was where Lehi would land and Nephite civilization sprang forth and would conclude at the very back door of Smith's farm.

Look at Delmarva and you will see that "a river runs through it." That is the Sidon river and the narrow strip of wilderness is the tail of Delmarva leading upward in which the river separated the Nephites from the Lamanites. Apologists don't know what to make of the so-called narrow strip of wilderness, but I've revealed the secret of that narrow strip of land and how it relates to Sidon in separating the two regions of the peninsula, a land nearly surrounded by water.

I bear you my testimony that I know these things to be true.

ZOOM in here and scroll down to the peninsula and see the river at Somerset. That is where Joseph Smith had his eyes while creating his story for his novel. Delmarva is the Book of Mormon! I know it, Joseph Smith knows it, and God knows it!

Wake up people. That includes you, Dan Vogel. BYP, get with the program!

[Valo]

It turns out that the British Isles more exactly matches the Book of Mormon than any place hypothesized up to this point. Who would have even considered this?

What's the evidence that points to the British Isles as being the place? Good question.

[Valo]

Excellent point. The leaders know they can't support historicity.

The Mormon leaders are powerless to say where Book of Mormon lands are or where they are not. Their mouths remain shut and for good reason. Let them not speak a word! Silence is golden.

I bear my testimony that I know the Book of Mormon is fiction. I know that by the POWER of God! I defy the world (moreover the Mormon church) to refute me.

Please provide me the information that would lead me to know the same thing as you.

[Shulem]

The Mormon leaders are powerless to say where Book of Mormon lands are or where they are not. Their mouths remain shut and for good reason. Let them not speak a word! Silence is golden.

I bear my testimony that I know the Book of Mormon is fiction. I know that by the POWER of God! I defy the world (moreover the Mormon church) to refute me.

Please provide me the information that would lead me to know the same thing as you.

It’s true that from time to time I up the excitement of the thread and ramble strong statements about my ability to decipher these matters and do it as if I’m God. Please, just excuse my theatrics and allusions of grandeur with regard to inspiration.

Let’s not get into all that drama that surrounds the mystery of ego. I would rather discuss Book of Mormon geography.

Thanks

[Shulem]

It’s my pleasure to add four special visual aids that map out the first locations and migrations of the people of Nephi. Please note how the 4th visual aid demonstrates a directional course change (“bent”) to complete the journey from Shilom to Zarahemla insomuch as the Book of Mormon is somewhat ambiguous on how people journeying northward from the land of Nephi end up going down (southward) into the land of Zarahemla.









Here’s to hoping that readers can appreciate my interpretation of “up” and “down” (north and south) between Zarahemla and the land of Nephi is based on cardinal direction rather than elevation as interpreted by apologists. Zarahemla was separated from the southern region of the land of Nephi by a river as the landform on the other side consisted of a narrow strip of wilderness which served as a roadway leading between the two regions. The expression “go down to the land of Zarahemla” refers to the southern trek after making the appropriate turn around the head of the Sidon River, thus Limhi’s people “bent their course” after fleeing northward while traversing the narrow strip of wilderness leading beyond the Sidon River. At this juncture, the southern leg of the journey leading down (south) into Zarahemla can be accomplished. This reminds us of Lehi leaving his land of inheritance and departing into the wilderness, southward, and “came down by the borders near the shore of the Red Sea.”

[bill4long]

When are you going to do a show with Bill and RFM?

[Shulem]

When are you going to do a show with Bill and RFM?

Me being in a “show” is not in the cards at this time. I’m afraid that my theory and the things I express may be perceived as bunk from those who should know better but for whatever reason do not. Either my Delmarva theory is true or it is not. Either I share Joseph Smith’s experience or I do not. Readers get to decide for themselves. I’m afraid some consider me a blowhard who makes a lot of unsubstantiated noise based on wrong interpretations.

Frankly, I just don’t care very much, anymore.

[bill4long]

When are you going to do a show with Bill and RFM?

Me being in a “show” is not in the cards at this time. I’m afraid that my theory and the things I express may be perceived as bunk from those who should know better but for whatever reason do not. Either my Delmarva theory is true or it is not. Either I share Joseph Smith’s experience or I do not. Readers get to decide for themselves. I’m afraid some consider me a blowhard who makes a lot of unsubstantiated noise based on wrong interpretations.

Frankly, I just don’t care very much, anymore.

They recently let Lars Nielsen on the show. (Dan Vogel has thoroughly debunked his wild ridiculous theory.) No reason why they wouldn't let you air your ideas, unless you pissed them off personally or something.