One of the most popular Mormon YouTubers, Nemo the Mormon, has been called in for a disciplinary council with the likely outcome of losing his membership in the LDS Church. Nemo, echoing John Dehlin, calls this a "medieval solution to a modern problem." Are they right?
I went into this one "triggered" by the usual claim that ex-communication is a medieval solution to a modern problem. See where I landed on this.
One of the reasons I did this is because I am bummed that Nemo is facing church discipline, even though it is absolutely predictable. I just really like Nemo and his show. I also find Elder Oaks' call for MORE excommunications absolutely baffling.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
What is wrong with those reformers from the Age of Reason? They have no business being in the Middle Ages. If we propose burning them at the stake and they blab it will only embarrass the Church. What if we locked Nemo up like his compatriot Galileo so no word of his punishment can leak out?
What is wrong with those reformers from the Age of Reason? They have no business being in the Middle Ages. If we propose burning them at the stake and they blab it will only embarrass the Church. What if we locked Nemo up like his compatriot Galileo so no word of his punishment can leak out?
With so many options, why stop at excommunication?
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
Do you think the Church might request Mossad and the Israeli Army to share some of their technology via their Jerusalem center? Could they link into iPhones and Android devices that have listings for Mormon Stories, Mormon Discussions, and Discuss Mormonism? That would be a powerful technology to have. Do you think President Oaks would demand to push the button himself as part of his ex-communication rubric?
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I also find Elder Oaks' call for MORE excommunications absolutely baffling.
I see it as completely in character with Oak’s theology. The ultimate unquestionable authority of the brethren is his most important idea he wants to convey to the members. There is no better way to demonstrate that authority than to flex it with these public shows of force.
Oaks cares about legalism, authoritarianism, and purity culture. Those are his fundamental religious tenants, and they supersede any of those loving liberal ideas that Jesus Christ ever said.
I also find Elder Oaks' call for MORE excommunications absolutely baffling.
I see it as completely in character with Oak’s theology. The ultimate unquestionable authority of the brethren is his most important idea he wants to convey to the members. There is no better way to demonstrate that authority than to flex it with these public shows of force.
Oaks cares about legalism, authoritarianism, and purity culture. Those are his fundamental religious tenants, and they supersede any of those loving liberal ideas that Jesus Christ ever said.
I see it as completely in character with Oak’s theology. The ultimate unquestionable authority of the brethren is his most important idea he wants to convey to the members. There is no better way to demonstrate that authority than to flex it with these public shows of force.
Oaks cares about legalism, authoritarianism, and purity culture. Those are his fundamental religious tenants, and they supersede any of those loving liberal ideas that Jesus Christ ever said.
Sounds pretty accurate to me.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
