Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:11 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:45 am
Which is interesting as Nephi died a thousand years before the King James Bible was even conceived.
You are cherry picking only part of what he said.
You've cut off the bit I quoted right before I said that. Was that deliberate so as to hide the anachronism that I was talking about?

Here’s the quote from Hardy that I provided right before the comment that you selected to quote out of context.
In addition, the regular interactions with the King James Bible seen in 2 Nephi 25–30 make these chapters something of a biblical commentary.
Aftwr which I commented: “ Which is interesting as Nephi died a thousand years before the King James Bible was even conceived.”

You’ve been warned before about deceptively truncating people’s posts when you quote them. Several times.

Stop doing it, it’s dishonest and is conduct unbecoming from a member of the Church.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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drumdude wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:23 pm
Valo wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:01 pm


Don't worry about me personally. The information is either true or false irrespective of the person bringing the Idea forward.

Ad hominems are fallacious.
I’d trust anyone with the name Dr Kek. They probably believe we didn’t land on the moon, 9/11 was an inside job, and the vaccines are for mind control. The farther away from the lame stream media narrative they are the more true it must be (without any evidence.)
You sound like a fool. Not saying you are but you come across as one.
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Chap wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:51 pm
Valo wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:01 pm


Don't worry about me personally. The information is either true or false irrespective of the person bringing the Idea forward.

Ad hominems are fallacious.
On a discussion board (the clue is in the name), it is reasonable to ask whether a poster does in fact hold to the view they have quoted, in this case that "the British Isles were colonized by remnant of the Israelites, particularly the tribe of Dan but also other Israelites." If you do, I'd like to ask you for a brief summary of why you believe this to be the case.
Whatever you say, attacker of people.
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The Lost Ten Tribes will comprise a "Brit-Am", or Confederation of People(s).

[Isaiah 42:6]
" I THE LORD HAVE CALLED THEE IN RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND WILL HOLD THINE HAND, AND WILL KEEP THEE, AND GIVE THEE FOR A COVENANT OF THE PEOPLE [Hebrew: "Brit-Am"], FOR A LIGHT OF THE GENTILES;"

<<A COVENANT OF THE PEOPLE>>: in Hebrew "Brit-Am". Israel will be a Brit-Am. In the Middle Ages Britain sometimes referred to herself as Britammia. The Welsh called themselves, Bryth y Brithan, or Briths of Brithan [Charles A. L. Totten: ‘The Romance of History: Lost Israel Found’, USA, 1890].

In Biblical Hebrew "brith" means covenant.

The Rabbinical Biblical Commentator Malbim says that Brit-Am means Israel.
https://www.britam.org/
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Valo wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:18 pm
drumdude wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:23 pm


I’d trust anyone with the name Dr Kek. They probably believe we didn’t land on the moon, 9/11 was an inside job, and the vaccines are for mind control. The farther away from the lame stream media narrative they are the more true it must be (without any evidence.)
You sound like a fool. Not saying you are but you come across as one.
Ditto. Not saying you are, but what you posted there specifically is really dumb. Hence my response to point that out.
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drumdude wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:21 pm
Valo wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:18 pm


You sound like a fool. Not saying you are but you come across as one.
Ditto. Not saying you are, but what you posted there specifically is really dumb. Hence my response to point that out.
You did the research before you posted? Looked at the evidence?

No you didn't.

My father taught me not to argue with an idiot because then you have two idiots arguing. :D
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Valo wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:24 pm
drumdude wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:21 pm

Ditto. Not saying you are, but what you posted there specifically is really dumb. Hence my response to point that out.
You did the research before you posted? Looked at the evidence?

No you didn't.

My father taught me not to argue with an idiot because then you have two idiots arguing. :D
My dad taught me to consider the source of any information you come across. The number of people who are incapable of doing this online baffles me.

I’m sure I’m really missing out not getting the true story from a random video on Twitter.

https://micronations.wiki/wiki/Republic_of_Kekistan
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Valo wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:19 pm
The Lost Ten Tribes will comprise a "Brit-Am", or Confederation of People(s).

[Isaiah 42:6]
" I THE LORD HAVE CALLED THEE IN RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND WILL HOLD THINE HAND, AND WILL KEEP THEE, AND GIVE THEE FOR A COVENANT OF THE PEOPLE [Hebrew: "Brit-Am"], FOR A LIGHT OF THE GENTILES;"

<<A COVENANT OF THE PEOPLE>>: in Hebrew "Brit-Am". Israel will be a Brit-Am. In the Middle Ages Britain sometimes referred to herself as Britammia. The Welsh called themselves, Bryth y Brithan, or Briths of Brithan [Charles A. L. Totten: ‘The Romance of History: Lost Israel Found’, USA, 1890].

In Biblical Hebrew "brith" means covenant.

The Rabbinical Biblical Commentator Malbim says that Brit-Am means Israel.
https://www.britam.org/
from Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism
According to Brackney (2012) and Fine (2015), the French Huguenot magistrate M. le Loyer's The Ten Lost Tribes, published in 1590, provided one of the earliest expressions of the belief that the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Scandinavian, Germanic, and associated peoples are the direct descendants of the Old Testament Israelites.[3][10]: 176  Anglo-Israelism has also been attributed to King James VI and I (1566–1625),[10] who is reported to have believed he was the King of Israel.[3] Adriaan van Schrieck (1560–1621), who influenced Henry Spelman (1562–1641) and John Sadler (1615–74), wrote in the early 17th century about his ideas on the origins of the Celtic and Saxon peoples. In 1649, Sadler published Rights of the Kingdom,[11] "which argues for an 'Israelite genealogy for the British people'".[10]: 176 

Aspects of British Israelism and its influences have also been traced to Richard Brothers, who published A Revealed Knowledge of the Prophecies and Times in 1794,[12]: 1  John Wilson's Our Israelitish Origin (1844),[12]: 6-9  and John Pym Yeatman's The Shemetic Origin of the Nations of Western Europe (1879).[13] : 211 
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huckelberry wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:05 pm
Valo wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:19 pm


https://www.britam.org/
from Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism
According to Brackney (2012) and Fine (2015), the French Huguenot magistrate M. le Loyer's The Ten Lost Tribes, published in 1590, provided one of the earliest expressions of the belief that the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Scandinavian, Germanic, and associated peoples are the direct descendants of the Old Testament Israelites.[3][10]: 176  Anglo-Israelism has also been attributed to King James VI and I (1566–1625),[10] who is reported to have believed he was the King of Israel.[3] Adriaan van Schrieck (1560–1621), who influenced Henry Spelman (1562–1641) and John Sadler (1615–74), wrote in the early 17th century about his ideas on the origins of the Celtic and Saxon peoples. In 1649, Sadler published Rights of the Kingdom,[11] "which argues for an 'Israelite genealogy for the British people'".[10]: 176 

Aspects of British Israelism and its influences have also been traced to Richard Brothers, who published A Revealed Knowledge of the Prophecies and Times in 1794,[12]: 1  John Wilson's Our Israelitish Origin (1844),[12]: 6-9  and John Pym Yeatman's The Shemetic Origin of the Nations of Western Europe (1879).[13] : 211 
Wow what a surprise it’s all a load of crap.

Honestly it’s so sad that these things are spread so widely.
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