It is hard to imagine a candidate more unworthy to serve as president than Donald Trump

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:45 pm
Trump employing FAKE FIREFIGHTERS at his Scranton rally:

https://youtu.be/fNL5W5_Wtlg?si=HF2cpSOgjKitGgd0

This is after using a black church packed with white supporters, claiming “the unions” endorse him, as well as using an Indian guy posing as a Black Trump supporter to falsely push the idea he has support that doesn’t simply doesn’t exist.

This man doesn’t have the faculties needed to be our President again.

- Doc

More lying from Trump? Totally not expected.

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He did this a few days ago with fake ‘auto workers’, too.

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I just don’t see how anyone thinks that if they vote this guy back into office, that he’ll do much more than sit in a back room eating cheeseburgers, shouting at people on X, and telling stupid lie after lie, while handing the country over to borderline Christian nationalists to impose Project 2025 and set loose their pregnancy monitoring police to roam the country.
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Here’s a fun little bit of grift that Team Trump is trying to pull off in Oklahoma…

Bonus hypocrisy: The Trump Bible is printed in China. That fellow who always talks about how he’s going to ‘bring jobs back’ decided to put his name on a Bible manufactured in China, and his toady who’s dug into the OK school system is trying to route millions of dollars to the company supplying them.

'Trump Bible' one of few that meet Walters' criteria for Oklahoma classrooms

Jennifer Palmer, Paul Monies, Heather Warlick
Oklahoma Watch


Superintendent Ryan Walters isn’t just talking about buying Bibles for schools.

Bids opened Monday for a contract to supply the state Department of Education with 55,000 Bibles. According to the bid documents, vendors must meet certain specifications: Bibles must be the King James Version; must contain the Old and New Testaments; must include copies of the Pledge of Allegiance, Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights; and must be bound in leather or leather-like material.

A salesperson at Mardel Christian & Education searched, and though they carry 2,900 Bibles, none fit the parameters.

But one Bible fits perfectly: Lee Greenwood’s God Bless the U.S.A. Bible, endorsed by former President Donald Trump and commonly referred to as the Trump Bible. They cost $60 each online, with Trump receiving fees for his endorsement.


Mardel doesn’t carry the God Bless the U.S.A. Bible or another Bible that could meet the specifications, the We The People Bible, which was also endorsed by Donald Trump Jr. It sells for $90.

“The RFP on its face seems fair, but with additional scrutiny, we can see there are very few Bibles on the market that would meet these criteria, and all of them have been endorsed by former President Donald Trump,” Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law and Justice Executive Director Colleen McCarty said.

Former Oklahoma Attorney General Drew Edmondson said the request for proposals might violate state law.

It appears to me that this bid is anything but competitive,” Edmondson said. “It adds to the basic specification other requirements that have nothing to do with the text. The special binding and inclusion of government documents will exclude almost all bidders. If the bid specs exclude most bidders unnecessarily, I could consider that a violation.”

Separation of church and state concerns aside, much less expensive Bibles are readily available. Paperback versions of the New King James Version are available online for $2.99 each, less than 5% of what the Trump-endorsed Bible would cost. There are many free Bible apps, too.

Though Walters has frequently said he wants Bibles in every classroom, he has also clarified publicly that he wants them in classes where the Bible might apply to academic standards, such as history or literature. The request for 55,000 copies doesn’t fit either scenario; there are only 43,000 classroom teachers in the state, and many fewer teaching just history or literature.

If the Bibles cost $60 each, and the state buys 55,000, that’s $3.3 million.

On Sept. 26, Walters asked for $3 million to purchase Bibles for Oklahoma classrooms as part of his agency’s fiscal year 2026 budget request to the Oklahoma Legislature.

“We have talked about ensuring that our history courses include the role the Bible played throughout American history,” Walters said. “We’ve talked about the efforts of left-wing groups and the teachers’ unions to drive the Bible out of school. I believe it’s important for historical context for our kids to understand the role the Bible played.”



Walters said finding a Bible vendor should go through the competitive bidding process because that would be the cleanest, easiest way to choose.

The board did not discuss purchasing Bibles with the current budget year appropriation. However, the state issued the solicitation Monday, and it’s open for just two weeks. The Office of Management and Enterprise Services typically recommends at least four weeks.

Dan Isett, Walters' spokesman, said their intention with the RFP is to get Bibles distributed to classrooms as quickly as possible.

Isett said the $3 million is coming from payroll savings.

“OSDE has realized significant personnel and administrative cost savings that can be directed toward this program,” he said.

At least 130 people have resigned or been fired since Walters took office in 2023, according to The Oklahoman.

In June, Walters announced a mandate that a Bible should be in every Oklahoma classroom, though it’s unlikely he would have the authority to enforce that. The Oklahoma Supreme Court affirmed that school districts maintain local control over curricula. Some superintendents across the state have said they do not intend to add the Bible to their curriculum.

“We will not be forcing our teachers to do this,” Bixby Superintendent Rob Miller said on News Nation on Aug. 12. “As a Christian myself, the idea of diminishing the word of God to a mere classroom prop is a little repulsive to me, so we will not be complying with that directive of having a physical Bible in every classroom.”

Walters has been touting his Bible plan to local and national groups. In these interviews, he talks more about Christianity than history.

In one interview this week, Walters claimed Democrats plan to teach kids to hate their country as well as Christianity and Judaism and said his Bible initiative is an antidote to that.

“We are going to be so proud here in Oklahoma to be the first state in the country to bring the Bible back to every single classroom and every state should be doing this.… President Trump praised our efforts. President Trump has been the leader on this issue.”

Walters is a frequent guest on conservative podcasts, radio shows and TV stations. His agency has a $60,000 per year contract with D.C.-based Vought Strategies to book him for national interviews weekly.

Walters endorsed Trump, and many onlookers surmise he’s angling for a cabinet position if Trump wins in November.


Trump licenses his name, image and likeness to be used in the Greenwood Bible’s marketing. The company’s website says it has no connection to the Trump campaign.

Financial disclosure forms filed by Trump at the Office of Governmental Ethics show he does benefit from Greenwood Bible sales through a Trump company, CIC Ventures LLC. His latest disclosure, obtained by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, shows Trump received $300,000 in royalties from the God Bless the U.S.A. Bible.

Oklahoma Democratic Party Chair Alicia Andrews said Walters is attempting to endear himself to Trump via the RFP for such a specific Bible. “For (Walters) to craft this RFP, to specifically identify this Bible, this document that the state taxpayers would spend money on, either is a dereliction of duty, a dereliction of stewardship or maybe it is a … signal to former President Trump: ‘Hey, hey, I’m on your team, sir,’” Andrews said.


Oklahoma Watch, at oklahomawatch.org, is a nonprofit, nonpartisan news organization that covers public-policy issues facing the state
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Lately, I've been asking my pro-Trump friend to make an effort to fact-check instead of just believing what they hear on their commute from wingnut radio personalities. They were very offended by this and started asking me everytime what my sources are. Of course, they don't believe PBS, apnews, bbc, Snopes, etc. Any source I have that disagrees with their bizarro support for Trump has to be lying. So, I dig deeper and get original sources, transcripts, etc. Do you think they accept those? Of course not.

I'll report back, but I'm pretty sure that when I tell them that the local 60, Scranton PA chapter of the firefighters union put out a statement that none of those holding signs that said 'scranton firefighters for Trump' were actually Scranton firefighters, they will argue that "THE LOCAL 60 SCRANTON UNION'S OWN STATEMENT WAS A LIE."

And that 'Hillary made them do it,' or some other dog**** level of stupidity.

I am reaching my limit with these idiots.
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Putin rolls over on Trump. What does this mean? They scraping him off their shoes over there now?

Kremlin confirms Trump sent Russia Covid-19 tests, after former president denied Bob Woodward claim

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/11/europe/k ... index.html
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2024 5:12 pm
Lately, I've been asking my pro-Trump friend to make an effort to fact-check instead of just believing what they hear on their commute from wingnut radio personalities. They were very offended by this and started asking me everytime what my sources are. Of course, they don't believe PBS, apnews, bbc, Snopes, etc. Any source I have that disagrees with their bizarro support for Trump has to be lying. So, I dig deeper and get original sources, transcripts, etc. Do you think they accept those? Of course not.

I'll report back, but I'm pretty sure that when I tell them that the local 60, Scranton PA chapter of the firefighters union put out a statement that none of those holding signs that said 'scranton firefighters for Trump' were actually Scranton firefighters, they will argue that "THE LOCAL 60 SCRANTON UNION'S OWN STATEMENT WAS A LIE."

And that 'Hillary made them do it,' or some other dog**** level of stupidity.

I am reaching my limit with these idiots.
Well, it's nice to see that I'm not the only one afflicted with this malady... friends and family averring that their news source is the one true source and my source is sheep fodder.

One of these day I'm going to put together a post for my Facebook dip****s to the effect of - You know guys, when you post and repost your MAGA memes and Trump affections it really just amounts to nothing more than a drive-by shooting. Facebook isn't a discussion forum. It just isn't formatted as such. So, if you really have the confidence in your theories that your postings seem to suggest, how 'bout taking it to a place where you can get a little push back. You know, peer review. Here's the forum where I participate. DM. Bring your game on over and see how you fare against the likes of Doc Cam and co. You are probably gonna need a little more than Marjorie Taylor-Greene quotes and ... look at all the sheep insults though.
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dantana wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:46 am
Bring your game on over and see how you fare against the likes of Doc Cam and co. You are probably gonna need a little more than Marjorie Taylor-Greene quotes and ... look at all the sheep insults though.
Could Doc Cam withstand a hundred thousand residents of the Orem-Provo area bearing their testimony that Trump is truer than true and the best thing since Benito Mussolini hit the shores of Naples?
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Moksha wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 2:20 am
dantana wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:46 am
Bring your game on over and see how you fare against the likes of Doc Cam and co. You are probably gonna need a little more than Marjorie Taylor-Greene quotes and ... look at all the sheep insults though.
Could Doc Cam withstand a hundred thousand residents of the Orem-Provo area bearing their testimony that Trump is truer than true and the best thing since Benito Mussolini hit the shores of Naples?
And that, Mr. penguin, is a nice lead in to my reason #51 for why I wish Trump would fall off his stick horse and break his funny bone.

Discuss Mormonism.com is by nature Morm. related. Morms are conservative Trump fans. Morm Trump fans lurk about these boards. Morm. Trump fan lurkers have not once in the Trump era came on here and made a point that withstood scrutiny, let alone owned Doc Cam and co. End of line.

Edit/add: Idk. Breaking his funny bone might actually improve his attempted standup routines at his concerts. Rallies.
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Here's our Governor correcting another lie from the mouth of doofus.

Colorado governor disputes Trump’s claims about gangs in Aurora


https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/11/politics ... rce-digvid

It's really hard to tell if he's trying to stir up fear and paranoia or a "look there not here!" type thing. Possibly both I guess.

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The Nazi movement stoked its fires with hatred against those of not white Aryan ancestry. Trump is operating off the same playbook and his supporters are loving it.

Both Trump and Hitler said immigrants from Norway are fine. After all, we have a Norwegian Jesus.
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