The Rise in Political Violence

[Moksha]

Don't want Suzi and Johnny being sent to school and returned home with a sex change operation!!! The moral compass of the Fatherland would demand Trump stop that with first-day (and perhaps continuing) terror if necessary.

And what about those immigrants? Who is going to round them up and eliminate them if not Trump?

[Marcus]

Interesting perspective. Not coincidentally at all, the reason of this type I heard today from a Trump supporter was that, unless Trump 'fixes' it, transgender athletes who play on teams will also continue to:
"get something they don't deserve...!"

I actually have a mixed perspective on that subject. I understand the POV regarding a potential advantage for trans athletes who began life as ‘biological males’ (for lack of more accurate terminology) and now want to participate in a sport against cis women. I don’t think that the optimal solution has been found due to how complex and individualized the issue actually is (and it’s amusing that the folks complaining about such things seem to have nothing to say about the reverse situation).

But, for a candidate to use this as a primary wedge issue, and for any voter to base their allegiance to a candidate for doing so, is ludicrous in my opinion. The best estimates are that there may not even be 100 such situations like this across the entire country that would have any potential to affect records or standings. To use that trivial quantity to mislead, divide and spread hatred against a large segment of the population is unconscionable.

Yes, and I tried bringing up the intricacies, but no, the person I was discussing it with could only reiterate a form of your point:
"someone is getting something they don't deserve...!"

So yes, the divisive nature was all that came through.

[Some Schmo]

But you didn't ask me what I thought of Trump's morals, you asked me how my moral compass helps me navigate Trump. The answer is that my moral compass doesn't help me navigate Trump. I don't see Trump (or any politician) as a messiah or someone I look to for an example of how to treat human beings. As a believer, I have that in spades. To be fair, even though I would suggest that Trump's toxic rhetoric is quite high, it is my opinion that the great majority of Washington DC politicians are trying their best to challenge him for the gold medal in toxic rhetoric (Harris/Biden most certainly included)

What does my moral compass help me navigate? As it relates to Presidential voting specifically, I focus on the above referenced broader moral obligations and responsibilities that political parties in power (not individual people) have to all of the citizens of the country that they serve. In my view, the current political party in power has failed the citizens of this country, miserably. In addition to things such as their destructive and divisive obsession with identity politics, race, gender, sexual orientation, and their apparent desire to remove merit from being a thing, I believe their complete and literally insane failure to secure the border, for years on end, has been, by a large margin, the most egregious failure of all.

So your "moral compass" leads you to make assertions without evidence in order to assuage your guilt about making such a stupid decision.

I've never once heard Harris talk about identity politics, race, gender, sexual orientation, or an apparent desire to remove merit from being a thing. You're just making that crap up. Prove me wrong.

[Some Schmo]

And once again, in order to make an "argument" we see another republican voter lie. It's always BS with the GOP base. It's their favorite.

[Moksha]

Rather than blank TV after removing Colbert, Kimmel, and Seth Meyers, we could assuage our moral compass by swaying to Ave Maria before mandatory curfew.

[Dwight]

It turns out the featured speaker who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage” was also planning to refer to Kamala Harris as a “c*New Testament” but the Trump campaign vetoed it, according to reporting from the Bulwark. This means that the Trump campaign did indeed vet and approve the line about Puerto Rico. This makes it so much worse for Trump, and takes away his ability to argue that the line was at odds with what his campaign believes in.

Per the Palmer Report

Political platform education comes from random speakers at a rally? Odd perspective.

Random speakers that had their remarks vetted by the campaign.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Notice the term “rightful President”. This doesn’t just manifest in these dopes’ brains, and I have a feeling they’ll be usingit a lot in the coming months.



I also think the deliberate misinformation, in this case the constant inflating of Trump rally numbers, they feed their base is designed to make their malfeasance essentially invisible to said base. This is kind of thing preps the mind for any kind of outrageous thing the Party says to be consumed as the truth.

- Doc

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Also, the killing babies thing. This is an example were the Party has told idiots for years that Democrats kill babies. No matter how many times they’ve been shown pictures of fertilized eggs, blastocysts, or gestational fetuses the size of a bean, the Party has told them these are babies and so they’re babies. This is an obvious and deliberate ploy to demonize female body autonomy, and so we get “killing babies” from these people.

Speaking of which. Natural abortions, a.k.a. God Killing Babies, occur in about 30–50% of all pregnancies. If we have ~140M pregnancies each year, God Killing Babies could be as high as 42–70 million babies. Ceeboo doesn’t stop to think about how many BABIES God kills EVERY YEAR. Of course not. Only DEMONCRAPS kill BABIES.

- Doc

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Oh, great. They played the Confederate anthem Dixie at that crap show in NYC:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/confe ... r-AA1t5R0u

- Doc

Eta



Believe you me, these guys are getting ready to start some crap.

[honorentheos]

In my view, the current political party in power has failed the citizens of this country, miserably. In addition to things such as their destructive and divisive obsession with identity politics, race, gender, sexual orientation, and their apparent desire to remove merit from being a thing, I believe their complete and literally insane failure to secure the border, for years on end, has been, by a large margin, the most egregious failure of all.

Civil war experts know that two factors put countries at high risk of civil war. The US has one of these risk factors and remains dangerously close to the second. Neither risk factor has diminished since 6 January. The first is ethnic factionalism. This happens when citizens in a country organise themselves into political parties based on ethnic, religious, or racial identity rather than ideology. The second is anocracy. This is when a government is neither fully democratic nor fully autocratic; it’s something in between. Civil wars almost never happen in full, healthy, strong democracies. They also seldom happen in full autocracies. Violence almost always breaks out in countries in the middle – those with weak and unstable pseudo-democracies. Anocracy plus factionalism is a dangerous mix.

We also know who tends to start civil wars, especially those fought between different ethnic, religious and racial groups. This also does not bode well for the US. The groups that tend to resort to violence are not the poorest groups, or the most downtrodden. It’s the group that had once been politically dominant but is losing power. It’s the loss of political status – a sense of resentment that they are being replaced and that the identity of their country is no longer theirs – that tends to motivate these groups to organise. Today, the Republican party and its base of white, Christian voters are losing their dominant position in American politics and society as a result of demographic changes. Whites are the slowest-growing demographic in the US and will no longer be a majority of the population by around 2044. Their status will continue to decline as America becomes more multi-ethnic, multiracial, and multireligious, and the result will be increasing resentment and fear at what lies ahead. The people who stormed the Capitol on 6 January believed they were saving America from this future and felt fully justified in this fight.

America’s democracy declined rapidly between 2016 and 2020. Since 6 January 2021, the US has failed to strengthen its democracy in any way, leaving it vulnerable to continued backsliding into the middle zone. In fact, the Republican party has accelerated its plan to weaken our democracy further. Voter suppression bills have been introduced in almost every state since 6 January. Election deniers are running for office in 48 of the 50 states and now represent a majority of all Republicans running for Congressional and state offices in the US midterm elections this week. Trump loyalists are being elected secretaries of state in key swing states, increasing the likelihood that Republican candidates will be granted victory, even if they lose the vote. And America’s two big political parties remain deeply divided by race and religion. If these underlying conditions do not change, a leader like Stewart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers can go to jail, but other disaffected white men will take his place.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... her-parker