Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:42 pm
:cry:
I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:27 am
You could be talking about the First Vision accounts…
So apparently you are steering away from the fact that Steuss may have given some pretty flimsy evidence for the ‘brick story’.

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MG
Lol, you gave yourself away already by defining 'flimsy evidence' as including Book of Mormon witnesses testimony and first vision testimony. Your arguments are moot.
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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Marcus wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:49 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:42 pm
:cry:



So apparently you are steering away from the fact that Steuss may have given some pretty flimsy evidence for the ‘brick story’.

Regards
MG
Lol, you gave yourself away already by defining 'flimsy evidence' as including Book of Mormon witnesses testimony and first vision testimony. Your arguments are moot.
Incorrect. You are making that association. I am not.

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MG
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:42 pm
:cry:
I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:27 am
You could be talking about the First Vision accounts…
So apparently you are steering away from the fact that Steuss may have given some pretty flimsy evidence for the ‘brick story’.

Regards
MG
Why is it flimsy?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:08 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:42 pm
:cry:



So apparently you are steering away from the fact that Steuss may have given some pretty flimsy evidence for the ‘brick story’.

Regards
MG
Why is it flimsy?
Now you’re being silly. Don’t waste my time. I’ve already been there.

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MG
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:22 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:08 pm
Why is it flimsy?
Now you’re being silly. Don’t waste my time. I’ve already been there.

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MG
Marcus and Steuss have ably demonstrated that the evidence is as solid as anything that claims the gold plates were real. If you’re saying it’s all flimsy, fair enough.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:26 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:22 pm


Now you’re being silly. Don’t waste my time. I’ve already been there.

Regards,
MG
Marcus and Steuss have ably demonstrated that the evidence is as solid as anything that claims the gold plates were real. If you’re saying it’s all flimsy, fair enough.
He is. His own words:
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:05 am
... give undue credence and/or acceptance to this rather shaky story that has layers of prejudicial and chronological time related testimony issues involved.

But then again, maybe it’s rather simple. It fits a narrative...
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:26 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:22 pm


Now you’re being silly. Don’t waste my time. I’ve already been there.

Regards,
MG
Marcus and Steuss have ably demonstrated that the evidence is as solid as anything that claims the gold plates were real. If you’re saying it’s all flimsy, fair enough.
That’s not what I’m saying. That’s what you’re saying.

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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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Marcus wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:13 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:26 pm
Marcus and Steuss have ably demonstrated that the evidence is as solid as anything that claims the gold plates were real. If you’re saying it’s all flimsy, fair enough.
He is. His own words:
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:05 am
... give undue credence and/or acceptance to this rather shaky story that has layers of prejudicial and chronological time related testimony issues involved.

But then again, maybe it’s rather simple. It fits a narrative...
I’m not saying anything in particular about gold plates. What I am saying is that the ‘brick story’ rests on a sandy foundation. You folks are making a connection to the story of the plates and passing judgement based upon your own subjective judgement. Leave the plates out of it. Own up to the fact that the brick story is flimsy.

Period.

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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:26 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:22 pm


Now you’re being silly. Don’t waste my time. I’ve already been there.

Regards,
MG
Marcus and Steuss have ably demonstrated that the evidence is as solid as anything that claims the gold plates were real.
They haven’t demonstrated anything. Making a statement doesn’t mean/prove anything. C’mon guys. Get real. You’re wasting time here.

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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:31 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:26 pm
Marcus and Steuss have ably demonstrated that the evidence is as solid as anything that claims the gold plates were real.
Making a statement doesn’t mean/prove anything.
But the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is…well…a statement. Thanks for confirming that the best evidence for the Book of Mormon doesn’t mean/prove anything. We are agreed.

The First Vision is also, just a statement. So by your own reasoning, that doesn’t mean/prove anything.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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