What is a spiritual experience?

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Re: What is a spiritual experience?

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Rivendale wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:39 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:26 pm


How so?

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You are objectifying a group of people. Saying you have a family member in that group does not excuse the comment. Similar to the obnoxious comment some people say they aren't racist I have black freinds. Stephen Colbert classic.
I’m not objectifying a group of people. I think my words demonstrate that this is not the case. You and Marcus are seemingly unable to latch hold of where I am coming from. I am not disparaging anyone.

As I’ve said, if this is the case I would be disparaging myself. It’s interesting that this discussion seems to be going WOKE in certain respects. There are various communities made up of different kinds of people. We ought to be able to look at these various groups, including those on the autism spectrum, as being like unto ourselves but with unique characteristics that make them who they are.

When our son and his wife discovered that they had a child on the autism spectrum they responded with positive actions and behaviors that have made it possible for our grandson to fully integrate with the rest of his community while at the same time having a special sensitivity to those that don’t fit ‘the norm’.

Those of us on the spiritual autism spectrum also deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. It’s not something to be brushed under the rug.

I am assuming that this is not your intent.

There are some here that seem to think that ‘spirituality’ is of a cookie cutter variety that has only one definition. The peoples of the world show this not to be the case. There is a spectrum of spirituality. Some being due to our spiritual and/or physical makeup.

Why is that so hard to understand?

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MG
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Re: What is a spiritual experience?

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Marcus wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:04 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:24 pm


You need to realize, Marcus, it is you...
:lol: You CANNOT be consistent can you?
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:07 pm
...Please, however, keep responses helpful and constructive without resorting to ad hominem attacks...
Right.
I believe I’ve made an apt comparison...
As a troll strategy, yes. But as a human being? No. You are comparing your imaginary expectations about a belief you think should apply to the world as a whole, to a real world issue. That's despicable.

But, i predict, you will continue, because a troll just wants involvement.
You are now trolling. Please stay on topic. You are adding nothing to the discussion.

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Re: What is a spiritual experience?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:06 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:24 pm
I believe I’ve made an apt comparison.
I believe that you believe that. But nobody else appears to believe that your comparison is apt. Is that disconnect perhaps worth considering?

Are you open-minded enough to consider that you might be mistaken, that you might not be able to see that mistake, but others can and you should maybe take some time to consider retracting and rephrasing it? Are you open-minded enough to consider that everyone else might be right about this?
Right in what sense? Where in what I’ve said do you have an objective disagreement rather than a subjective disagreement based on your own personal biases and assumptions. Not to say that those biases and assumptions may fall in line with others here.

So far, no discussion on the merits of looking at spiritual autism as being ‘a thing’. What I am seeing is another example of ‘attack the messenger’. Please don’t waste our/my time with that nonsense.

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Re: What is a spiritual experience?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:19 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:06 pm
I believe that you believe that. But nobody else appears to believe that your comparison is apt. Is that disconnect perhaps worth considering?

Are you open-minded enough to consider that you might be mistaken, that you might not be able to see that mistake, but others can and you should maybe take some time to consider retracting and rephrasing it? Are you open-minded enough to consider that everyone else might be right about this?
Right in what sense? Where in what I’ve said do you have an objective disagreement rather than a subjective disagreement based on your own personal biases and assumptions. Not to say that those biases and assumptions may fall in line with others here.

So far, no discussion on the merits of looking at spiritual autism as being ‘a thing’. What I am seeing is another example of ‘attack the messenger’. Please don’t waste our/my time with that nonsense.

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MG
…said an utterly unrepentant closed mind.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: What is a spiritual experience?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:12 pm
...We ought to be able to look at these various groups, including those on the autism spectrum, as being like unto ourselves but with unique characteristics that make them who they are...
A spiritual spectrum akin to an autism spectrum is your imaginary thing, and it is offensive that you make that comparison.
...There is a spectrum of spirituality. Some being due to our spiritual and/or physical makeup...

Only in your imagination. it is offensive that you make the comparison between your imagined thing and the autism spectrum.

But, you will continue to do so because that's how you troll.
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Re: What is a spiritual experience?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:12 pm
Rivendale wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:39 pm


You are objectifying a group of people. Saying you have a family member in that group does not excuse the comment. Similar to the obnoxious comment some people say they aren't racist I have black freinds. Stephen Colbert classic.
I’m not objectifying a group of people. I think my words demonstrate that this is not the case. You and Marcus are seemingly unable to latch hold of where I am coming from. I am not disparaging anyone.

As I’ve said, if this is the case I would be disparaging myself. It’s interesting that this discussion seems to be going WOKE in certain respects. There are various communities made up of different kinds of people. We ought to be able to look at these various groups, including those on the autism spectrum, as being like unto ourselves but with unique characteristics that make them who they are.

When our son and his wife discovered that they had a child on the autism spectrum they responded with positive actions and behaviors that have made it possible for our grandson to fully integrate with the rest of his community while at the same time having a special sensitivity to those that don’t fit ‘the norm’.

Those of us on the spiritual autism spectrum also deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. It’s not something to be brushed under the rug.

I am assuming that this is not your intent.

There are some here that seem to think that ‘spirituality’ is of a cookie cutter variety that has only one definition. The peoples of the world show this not to be the case. There is a spectrum of spirituality. Some being due to our spiritual and/or physical makeup.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Regards,
MG
All your doing is equivocating. It was an insulting comparison. Rather than admit it was a bad comparison you glibbly go for the woke strawman and accuse commenter's of not being able to latch onto a wretched analogy.
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Re: What is a spiritual experience?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:27 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:19 pm


Right in what sense? Where in what I’ve said do you have an objective disagreement rather than a subjective disagreement based on your own personal biases and assumptions. Not to say that those biases and assumptions may fall in line with others here.

So far, no discussion on the merits of looking at spiritual autism as being ‘a thing’. What I am seeing is another example of ‘attack the messenger’. Please don’t waste our/my time with that nonsense.

Regards,
MG
…said an utterly unrepentant closed mind.
Nothing there.

Closed mind, huh? :lol:

Sheesh. I feel like I’m talking with an A.I. that is going in circles.

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MG
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Re: What is a spiritual experience?

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Marcus wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:04 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:12 pm
...We ought to be able to look at these various groups, including those on the autism spectrum, as being like unto ourselves but with unique characteristics that make them who they are...
A spiritual spectrum akin to an autism spectrum is your imaginary thing, and it is offensive that you make that comparison.
...There is a spectrum of spirituality. Some being due to our spiritual and/or physical makeup...

Only in your imagination. it is offensive that you make the comparison between your imagined thing and the autism spectrum.

But, you will continue to do so because that's how you troll.
Another nothing burger response. As usual, no substance.

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Re: What is a spiritual experience?

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Rivendale wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:14 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:12 pm


I’m not objectifying a group of people. I think my words demonstrate that this is not the case. You and Marcus are seemingly unable to latch hold of where I am coming from. I am not disparaging anyone.

As I’ve said, if this is the case I would be disparaging myself. It’s interesting that this discussion seems to be going WOKE in certain respects. There are various communities made up of different kinds of people. We ought to be able to look at these various groups, including those on the autism spectrum, as being like unto ourselves but with unique characteristics that make them who they are.

When our son and his wife discovered that they had a child on the autism spectrum they responded with positive actions and behaviors that have made it possible for our grandson to fully integrate with the rest of his community while at the same time having a special sensitivity to those that don’t fit ‘the norm’.

Those of us on the spiritual autism spectrum also deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. It’s not something to be brushed under the rug.

I am assuming that this is not your intent.

There are some here that seem to think that ‘spirituality’ is of a cookie cutter variety that has only one definition. The peoples of the world show this not to be the case. There is a spectrum of spirituality. Some being due to our spiritual and/or physical makeup.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Regards,
MG
All your doing is equivocating. It was an insulting comparison. Rather than admit it was a bad comparison you glibbly go for the woke strawman and accuse commenter's of not being able to latch onto a wretched analogy.
Another nothing burger response. Nothing to see here. No substantiative reply.

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MG
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Re: What is a spiritual experience?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:34 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:27 pm
…said an utterly unrepentant closed mind.
Nothing there.

Closed mind, huh? :lol:

Sheesh. I feel like I’m talking with an A.I. that is going in circles.

Regards,
MG
…said an utterly unrepentant closed mind

What’s really interesting is that to demonstrate your idea about spirituality, you could have just said “spirituality spectrum” (a range of different positions, opinions, etc. between two extreme points). But you didn’t. Even when it was pointed out to you that you could present your idea in a much better way, you doubled down on your error. You simply cannot comprehend being wrong can you? You cannot take feedback from people on this board, think about it, and see the sense in what they are saying. You’re not just closed-minded, you’re belligerently and wilfully closed-minded. About everything.
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Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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